9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

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9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by Bigtrout on 7/13/2018, 1:24 pm

I loaded the ammo for this evaluation in January and fired them this week.    The components are: Winchester range brass Lee U-die sized, CCI SPP 500, RCBS Uniflow dispensing, Hornady 115 HAP, 1.120 COL, Lee FCD, no crimp.   3 weight charges of each powder, 10 rounds each.

The rounds were fired from a basically stock RO9, except for a custom EGW bushing, an 11 lb. Wollf recoil spring, Burris FF3 and 3lb. trigger.  Hyskore benchrest.

Targets for each 10 rounds at 25 yds.  Measurement was on a Prochrono Pal 5 feet muzzle to center.   Wind at 3:00 0 to 5, 80 degrees, partly cloudy.

The highest charges are 0.2 grn below published data.

Powder                  CFE Pistol                                   Titegroup                                BE-86

Grn.                5.7          5.4          5.1             4.6         4.3         4.0             6.1         5.8          5.5

Avg. Vel.          1249        1181       1125          1227      1144       1088           1277      1228        1186

ES                   52            53          48              29          32           28              64          62           34

Hi                    1267        1204       1149          1238     1165         1105          1297      1259        1207
Lo                    1215        1151       1101          1209     1133         1077          1233      1197        1173

Hodgdon CFE Data 4" bbl. 115 GDHP 1.125 COL:  5.3=1059  5.9=1185

Alliant BE-86 Data  4" bbl.  115JHP  1.12 COL   6.3=1238
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Re: 9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by PhillySoldier on 7/20/2018, 9:43 am

I have a few differences in my loads but my results for CFE & Titegroup are very similar to yours within 10 fps of everything listed. I havent tested BE-86 yet.

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Post by Bigtrout on 7/23/2018, 12:43 pm

Thanks.  Good to hear my results are supported by someone else's data.  I reviewed some data from my 986 from last summer and they are within 10 fps also.
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Re: 9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by noylj on 7/27/2018, 5:55 pm

Where is the 25 or 50 yard accuracy data?
When you write "The highest charges are 0.2 grn below published data," do you mean 0.2gn below the manual's max load?

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Re: 9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by Bigtrout on 7/28/2018, 8:32 am

noylj wrote:Where is the 25 or 50 yard accuracy data?
When you write "The highest charges are 0.2 grn below published data," do you mean 0.2gn below the manual's max load?
 Only 10 rounds from a mostly stock RO9 off a manual rest would not quantify accuracy very well.   Qualitatively, 5.4 CFE had the tightest group with 8 of 10 rounds yielding 1 1/8" at 25 yds.  Close behind were 5.1 CFE, 4.0 TG and 4.3 TG.  The heaviest loads were fairly scattered.   BE-86 is also fairly scattered. I did not evaluate 50 yds. because my best RO groups only hold 3" at 50.  I'm using a 3 moa FF3 and that may also have an impact on accuracy due to my vision.  Looking back, I should have used my S&W 986 with a 2X scope which has yielded 1 3/4" at 50 on my good days and 3/4" at 25.  I chose the 1911 because that is what most of the forum populace shoots, albeit accurized versions, and, my main objective was to develop an approximate velocity curve.   

Yes, the maximum of 4.8 TG comes from the Speer manual.   5.9 CFE and 6.3 BE-86 are from online data published by Hodgdon and Alliant respectively.


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Re: 9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by PhillySoldier on 7/31/2018, 9:14 am

My testing was done from a Ransom Rest @ 25 yards, 10 rounds per shot group - 4 groups. My best results with the CFE was the lower end charge of 5.0g.  Shot groups ranged from 0.9" - 1.1" for an average of 1".

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Re: 9mm Chrono Results for CFE, Titegroup & BE-86

Post by Wobbley on 7/31/2018, 9:17 am

5.4 CFEPistol is my 115 Combat training load.  It seems accurate.
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