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Post by lanjo on 7/22/2018, 7:02 pm

Hi All,

I am looking for any advice on an electronic targeting system which I can use indoors to practice my trigger pull.  With these systems you put a laser round into your gun and when the firing pin hits the round it shoots a laser on a target which records a score.  I would like a system that records by score over, say 10 rounds.  Anyone use these systems to practice in the house?  Any which are good, and any to avoid?

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Joe Landry
Richmond VA

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Post by dronning on 7/22/2018, 7:21 pm

lanjo wrote:Hi All,

I am looking for any advice on an electronic targeting system which I can use indoors to practice my trigger pull.  With these systems you put a laser round into your gun and when the firing pin hits the round it shoots a laser on a target which records a score.  I would like a system that records by score over, say 10 rounds.  Anyone use these systems to practice in the house?  Any which are good, and any to avoid?

Best,

Joe Landry
Richmond VA
I'd get a target system that gives you trace information.  The trace data shows you what you are doing before and during trigger release.  I have a SCATT WS1 but there are several other systems that do a good job for less than what the SCATT costs.
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Post by lanjo on 7/22/2018, 7:41 pm

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the suggestion.  That system is $1,500.  Way out of my price range.  Looking for something <$200.  I will look at similar systems.

Thanks,

Joe

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Post by Jwhelan939 on 7/22/2018, 8:16 pm

I would love a Scatt! But it is well out of my price range as well. I have been working with a Mantisx for about a year now. My 45 scores have improved infinitely! I highly recommend it.

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Post by Oleg G on 7/22/2018, 9:18 pm

I have MantisX and also the LASR app with a Laserlyte bullet. I use both as aids to dry fire training. I set different objectives for the training sessions with the aid of a trace (MantisX) and the laser bullet.

The combo of the LASR app and a laser bullet (Laserlyte or Laser Ammo) is the closest I can think of for Joe. The LASR app has plugins (separate cost), which provide a Bullseye Target with correctly sized rings for a B-16 target and a scoring plugin. I used it with total reliability at distances between 8 and 50 feet. The total cost will be more than $200.
LASR app - $125; plugins - about $40; Laser bullet - about $90; Video camera (webcam will do) with a tripod - about $50. Total runs about $300.

I do credit both training modes Laser and MantisX for helping me get to Sharpshooter (waiting for the card) and now quickly approaching Expert. 

Of course, the biggest benefit is to make the dry fire sessions more exciting and, therefore, helping me to train more. In other words, IMHO, nothing replaces plain old dry fire and the blank wall, but different aids help to keep up the resolve to train.
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Post by Mac2 on 7/22/2018, 9:50 pm

MantisX is low cost - for what you receive - and provides clear information on what you did just-before, during, and just-after shot (or dryfire).   Issue during dryfire with MantisX thinking re-cocking is a shot can be cured by racking with pistol pointed upward.  An attachment to bottom of magazine exists to deal with pistol not having an under-barrel rail.  Amazon Fire 7 or Fire 8 do a good job of displaying information at low cost.

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Post by Slartybartfast on 7/23/2018, 8:21 am

Absolutely no experience with this product, but have it on my wish list.
Certainly at least to try it out.
https://coolfiretrainer.com/AWSCategories/p/9/BUILD-A-KIT
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Post by Chris Miceli on 7/23/2018, 8:30 am

Slartybartfast wrote:Absolutely no experience with this product, but have it on my wish list.
Certainly at least to try it out.
https://coolfiretrainer.com/AWSCategories/p/9/BUILD-A-KIT

Doug hall had them at Perry to test out. Pretty much everyone who tried it loved it.
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Post by Mac2 on 7/23/2018, 9:25 am

Wow.  Look at all of the pluming used by Coolfiretrainer and need for CO2.  For half the price, one can have a MantisX system including a Fire 8.   With MantisX, one just places the transducer onto the pistol (or onto mag.) and one is ready to go.  "To go" includes actually fireing (live) ammo and learning what goes on when one fires.  Some follow/cycle a live-fire with a dry-fire -  to train to eliminate bad habits. 
A coach can not always see a deficiency that is caught by MantisX.

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Post by Slartybartfast on 7/23/2018, 10:32 am

Mac2 wrote:Wow.  Look at all of the pluming used by Coolfiretrainer and need for CO2.  For half the price, one can have a MantisX system including a Fire 8.   With MantisX, one just places the transducer onto the pistol (or onto mag.) and one is ready to go.  "To go" includes actually fireing (live) ammo and learning what goes on when one fires.  Some follow/cycle a live-fire with a dry-fire -  to train to eliminate bad habits. 
A coach can not always see a deficiency that is caught by MantisX.
All of the pluming? You replace the barrel and charge from a CO2 bottle.
Get a MantisX and Coolfiretrainer.
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Post by dronning on 7/23/2018, 10:43 am

Slartybartfast wrote:All of the pluming? You replace the barrel and charge from a CO2 bottle.
Get a MantisX and Coolfiretrainer.
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Post by Oleg G on 7/23/2018, 10:54 am

Then also get the LASR app with a high-speed camera for Coolfire trainer. The complete package! Smile
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Post by Jwhelan939 on 7/23/2018, 10:56 am

But the cooltrainer just makes your gun blowback? Does it help coach in anyway?

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Post by Mac2 on 7/23/2018, 11:35 am

Dry fire with "blowback" is nice, but not very informative.  Several air pistols exist that include "blow back."  With MantisX, use can include fireing the actual rounds one intends to use (with "blowback").  . . .  and having a diagram that shows pistol movement before shot, during shot, and after shot.  
Trigger finger movement other than right backwards can be detected.  Optimum trigger finger placement is not always by-the-book.  Even a high speed camera might not catch all that is going on.  An associate, a few years back, took lots of high speed pictures of women firing G19 in an effort to improve performance.  Proved inconclusive as FTE and FTL still occurred even when G19 clearly was gripped firmly.  Apparent mass of shooter's arm seemed to help.  Some people need non-standard springs.  One size does not fit everyone.

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