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Need a full power load for 1911

Post by lablover on Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:02 pm

wife and I have several 1911 that are not wad guns etc.  would love to get a load suitable for regular 1911 use. I have a bunch of lead 200 gr swc I could use as well as the 185 zero jhp would rather not use up my zeros.  Plenty of BE powder and about 15 lbs of titegroup.  Would love to hear some suggestions.  Some of the 1911 are commander size but also some full size.  I really don’t want to re spring them all etc as they are carry guns etc.

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Post by lablover on Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:07 pm

And just realized I asked this same question months ago...getting old sucks

Anyway, still all ears to any new suggestions

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Post by Chris Miceli on Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:24 pm

4.5 - 4.8 of titegroup 200lswc
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Post by Wobbley on Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:29 pm

http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant/Hercules_1987.pdf

Looks like 5.2 - 5.5 BE.
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Post by BE Mike on Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm

I like 4.6 grains of Alliant Bullseye behind a 200 gr. LSWC. It is accurate, doesn't beat you or the pistol to death and reliably functions my Springfield Armory Match Target.
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Post by lablover on Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:56 pm

Wobbley wrote:http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant/Hercules_1987.pdf

Looks like 5.2 - 5.5 BE.
Boy, that seems stout compared to BEMIKE load suggestion.  All stock springs etc. yes, not beating her up is a plus but being able to function the gun is important.

On a side note, I have some loaded up that when I shoot in her commander functions fine, when she shoots the same load it fails, tells me she’s limp wristing it a bit. 230 factory hardball is fine when she shoots

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Post by lablover on Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:19 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:4.5 - 4.8 of titegroup 200lswc
Hey Chris.  I have some zero 185 gr jhp loaded up with 4.5 titegroup and I can shoot it fine out of my stock Kimber, when she tries no go, stovepipes.  I think I loaded this up for no dot stock set up.  I also try it in her commander and functions for me but not her.  Maybe if I step it up to 4.8 it might work for her.  Then again I’m not fond of her shooting up all my zero stuff.lol

I wonder if that 4.5 Titegroup  load would work in a slide mounted dot gun with 11 lb spring.  If I recall it hammers in a ball gun

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Post by LenV on Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:43 pm

You did ask for a "full" power load. (Put and evil grin here). I like 8.5 gr of Universal behind a 135gr JHP. Some slight tweeking required. I have a 400 Corbon barrel for my full size and a barrel for my Commander. I use a 22lb recoil spring in the full size and a 26 in the Commander. They are needed. Seriously my normal "hot" load for my .45 is 4.6 gr BE and any 185gr JHP. I have used XTP, Zero and Nosler. I have some 200 gr XTP and 230 gr HP in boxes but the 185 stuff is what I practice with. Just an FYI, Bullseye powder is clean after you get above 4.2-4.3 gr.

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Post by lablover on Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:36 pm

BE Mike wrote:I like 4.6 grains of Alliant Bullseye behind a 200 gr. LSWC. It is accurate, doesn't beat you or the pistol to death and reliably functions my Springfield Armory Match Target.
Hey mike, will that function in a stock 45 ?

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Post by james r chapman on Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:36 pm

enV wrote:You did ask for a "full" power load. (Put and evil grin here). I like 8.5 gr of Universal behind a 135gr JHP. Some slight tweeking required. I have a 400 Corbon barrel for my full size and a barrel for my Commander. I use a 22lb recoil spring in the full size and a 26 in the Commander. They are needed. Seriously my normal "hot" load for my .45 is 4.6 gr BE and any 185gr JHP. I have used XTP, Zero and Nosler. I have some 200 gr XTP and 230 gr HP in boxes but the 185 stuff is what I practice with. Just an FYI, Bullseye powder is clean after you get above 4.2-4.3 gr.

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Re: Need a full power load for 1911

Post by Wobbley on Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:36 pm

lablover wrote:
Wobbley wrote:http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant/Hercules_1987.pdf

Looks like 5.2 - 5.5 BE.
Boy, that seems stout compared to BEMIKE load suggestion.  All stock springs etc. yes, not beating her up is a plus but being able to function the gun is important.

On a side note, I have some loaded up that when I shoot in her commander functions fine, when she shoots the same load it fails, tells me she’s limp wristing it a bit. 230 factory hardball is fine when she shoots
The link has a load of 5.5 gr BE for a 200 JHP.  He did say these were for non Bullseye guns.
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Re: Need a full power load for 1911

Post by BE Mike on Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:36 am

lablover wrote:
BE Mike wrote:I like 4.6 grains of Alliant Bullseye behind a 200 gr. LSWC. It is accurate, doesn't beat you or the pistol to death and reliably functions my Springfield Armory Match Target.
Hey mike, will that function in a stock 45 ?
It should. I actually didn't find the SA Match Target to be any tighter or apparently more accurate, out-of-the-box, than my SA Loaded. I have shot the same load with swaged 185 gr. LSWCHP bullets and they functioned reliably and didn't lead the barrel. Like LenV says, I'm sure that I could switch bullets to a 185 gr. JHP and the same load would work fine.
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Re: Need a full power load for 1911

Post by lablover on Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:42 pm

BE Mike wrote:I like 4.6 grains of Alliant Bullseye behind a 200 gr. LSWC. It is accurate, doesn't beat you or the pistol to death and reliably functions my Springfield Armory Match Target.
Worked like a charm, thanks Mike

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