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Post by GaryWWhite on 8/26/2018, 5:07 pm

Hi Folks,

Am contemplating purchasing one of Accuracy X's pistols.  I really know nothing about them except what I've read on the internet, their youtube videos and FaceBook.  The owner called me today (on a Sunday) and was extremely nice answering all my questions.  I have found by internet search that he is an accomplished pistol and rifle shot having won many competitions and other awards.  His product looks first class and every part is stated to be made completely in the USA with absolutely no MIM or cast parts.  I don't know if he makes all his own parts but he does state that they make the frame and slide I determined.  I just can't find much about the Company no matter how much I have researched it on line.  I have always had Wilson Combat pistols but wanted something a little more customized to be a EDC gun.  I understand from what I have read and viewed that Accuracy X is known big time on the Precision Pistol circuit.  Hey guys, I'm just trying not to get bamboozled here and caught up in what might be a lot of hype.  Thanks in advance for kind responses.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/26/2018, 5:19 pm

What are you looking for in a pistol ?
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Post by dronning on 8/26/2018, 5:21 pm

I know of 2 High Masters that have them on order.  They are great guns and they are pricey, but you already know that.  There are other Smiths out there that can build you a great Bullseye gun for less money.

Just to name a few, some frequent this site:
K. C. Crawford of KC Kustom Creations
Jon Eulette
Dave Salyer
Jon Shue  Blackmass Custom

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Post by GaryWWhite on 8/26/2018, 5:38 pm

I know the guns are expensive and am not looking for certain to purchase another bullseye gun.  I want a gun that is extremely reliable and accurate.  It seems that Accuracy X meet those two criteria.  I have a gun I use in bullseye at this time and cannot shoot it to its full potential.  I might look at this gun as an EDC based on the reliability factor.  My life doesn't come cheap and I don't mind paying for the peace of mind.  I just don't know anything about the Company and want to make sure before I plunk out $4500.  Any further comments would be appreciated!
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Post by james r chapman on 8/26/2018, 5:56 pm

Ax makes at least 3 tiers of quality guns. Pro, Pro+, and the other, lol
I know Jim Henderson shoots one, a Pro+. Steve also has sorted out the 9mm apparently.
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Post by SW-52 on 8/26/2018, 6:03 pm

dronning wrote:I know of 2 High Masters that have them on order.  They are great guns and they are pricey, but you already know that.  There are other Smiths out there that can build you a great Bullseye gun for less money.

Just to name a few, some frequent this site:
K. C. Crawford of KC Kustom Creations
Jon Eulette
Dave Salyer
Jon Shue  Blackmass Custom

- Dave
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/26/2018, 6:06 pm

Just my opinion but I would never choose a 1911 for an EDC. It pains me to say that because I LOVE 1911's. I dislike the polymer wonders but they have their place in the EDC and defense purposes.

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Post by GaryWWhite on 8/26/2018, 6:40 pm

zanemoseley wrote:Just my opinion but I would never choose a 1911 for an EDC. It pains me to say that because I LOVE 1911's. I dislike the polymer wonders but they have their place in the EDC and defense purposes.

I believe the 1911 is the finest defensive firearm ever made.  It has 107 years of proven history.  I have always trusted this firearm.  You just have to make sure you get a good pistol.  It appears cost is driving reliability and accuracy at this time in history.  I have nothing negative to say about other pistols.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/26/2018, 7:54 pm

what size of 1911 are you going to carry?
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Post by Jwhelan939 on 8/26/2018, 7:59 pm

I carry a full size government everyday.

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Post by dronning on 8/26/2018, 8:27 pm

I kind of read right past your EDC comment but my response still stands, if you are looking for a 1911 carry any of the smiths I listed can build you a very nice carry gun.

IMHO
I no longer carry a 1911 and when I made the switch I hated the look and feel of "plastic guns". 

Why did I switch?
I took a Rob Pincus combat ICE course.  "I.C.E." Stands for Integrity, Consistency and Efficiency.  Rob was a huge fan of the 1911 until after a few years of conducting training courses he noticed a trend, about 90% of the firearm failures AND human operation failures at his courses were with 1911's.  It was then he personally made the switch to striker fired firearms, with no manual safety.  Based on that info. right after his course I bought a 9MM Springfield XD/XDm 4.5" to use as my carry and immediately fell in love with it.  Then I added a XDm 3.8 Compact, and then a XDs .45 for a backup piece.  I liked shooting them so much I now have several others including both a 9MM & .45 5.25".  The 5.25" are accurate enough to get you a P100.

I just looked at a Sig P320 and might have to have one of those in .45.
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/26/2018, 8:31 pm

GaryWWhite wrote:
zanemoseley wrote:Just my opinion but I would never choose a 1911 for an EDC. It pains me to say that because I LOVE 1911's. I dislike the polymer wonders but they have their place in the EDC and defense purposes.

I believe the 1911 is the finest defensive firearm ever made.  It has 107 years of proven history.  I have always trusted this firearm.  You just have to make sure you get a good pistol.  It appears cost is driving reliability and accuracy at this time in history.  I have nothing negative to say about other pistols.

That's fine. Everyone has an opinion. I personally wouldn't carry one. I also wouldn't carry a $4000 one. There's probably a .001% chance you'll ever have to use your EDC and if you do you'll likely only fire 1-3 shots so the chamces of it being an issue are pretty much 0. If it were the best defensive firearm then the military and police would still carry them. I do believe they are the pistol with the greatest accuracy potential.

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Post by lablover on 8/26/2018, 8:40 pm

zanemoseley wrote:
GaryWWhite wrote:
zanemoseley wrote:Just my opinion but I would never choose a 1911 for an EDC. It pains me to say that because I LOVE 1911's. I dislike the polymer wonders but they have their place in the EDC and defense purposes.

I believe the 1911 is the finest defensive firearm ever made.  It has 107 years of proven history.  I have always trusted this firearm.  You just have to make sure you get a good pistol.  It appears cost is driving reliability and accuracy at this time in history.  I have nothing negative to say about other pistols.

That's fine. Everyone has an opinion. I personally wouldn't carry one. I also wouldn't carry a $4000 one. There's probably a .001% chance you'll ever have to use your EDC and if you do you'll likely only fire 1-3 shots so the chamces of it being an issue are pretty much 0. If it were the best defensive firearm then the military and police would still carry them. I do believe they are the pistol with the greatest accuracy potential.
The Military uses mass produced pistols for them.  Some of the elite teams in the military carry 1911’s. Marine MARSOC carries special made 1911’s for a reason.  I’d take a 1911 in a combat situation over anything!  I carry a 1911 daily.  I have several carry 1911’s commander, officer models etc.  that’s my opinion. 

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Post by Steve B on 8/26/2018, 8:49 pm

AX is a reputable business that makes high quality, reliable pistols.  If I wasn't currently using Joe Chambers for all my 1911 work then Steve Huff would be my choice.

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Post by LenV on 8/26/2018, 8:51 pm

Let the poo poohing start now. I prefer a S&W model 39. But lately I admit I have been carrying my 1911 RO converted to a 38 Super. Even old dogs can learn some new tricks. The RO is a lot more accurate. I wouldn't hesitate to carry an Accuracy X pistol





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Post by zanemoseley on 8/26/2018, 8:52 pm

Well its a good thing they make more than one pistol lol. I've seen enough failures due to the extractor alone to not carry one, I also would NEVER carry a pistol with a hard safety on it.

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Post by lablover on 8/26/2018, 9:00 pm

Chocolate or vanilla different tastes right.  Good thing we have options.  I also carry some plastic guns. Most depends on what I’m wearing etc. bottom line.....I like all rifles and pistols..lol

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Post by GaryWWhite on 8/26/2018, 9:37 pm

Thanks to all who have endorsed Accuracy X.  I feel a lot better with my investment.  I am planning on having a co-witnessed RMR placed on the firearm.  As Robert Burton said, "it is better to be penny wise than pound foolish".  To the naysayers about the 1911, this firearm has always been considered an expert's weapon.  You shouldn't carry it if you are not completely and totally trained and confident in the weapon. One final comment.  Thanks to the gentleman who reinforced that a number of special military operatives still utilize the 1911 and I might add regarding law enforcement; the FBI HRT and various SWAT units around the Country.

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Post by Wobbley on 8/26/2018, 10:46 pm

I’m not here to rain on anyone’s parade here, however, for an EDC gun I don’t think I’d carry a $4500 Pistol.  Why? Because, it will very likely get impounded by the police if you are involved in a shooting.  The police property room will not recognize a fine custom, nor will they care for it while it is in their custody.  Some jurisdictions may resist returning it to you.  Good reliable pistols can be had for under $1000.  No great loss if it gets damaged or seized by some bureaucrats.  Losing an Accuracy X custom will hurt.  A lot.
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Post by mpolans on 8/27/2018, 2:11 am

I love 1911s, but as an EDC, it would suck.  For EDC, it's a real heavy gun.  Just shooting at the range, it might not seem so, but when it's on your belt everyday, you'll feel it tugging at your pants, especially when you're in a public restroom and you undo your belt.  An Officer's Model with a bobbed frame, can be concealed okay, but your capacity is 6+1 in .45acp, maybe 7+1 in 9mm.  However, for a full size 1911, unless you're a really big guy and you're into wearing an "I have a gun vest" all the time, they're harder to conceal without printing.

And to reiterate what Wobbley said, unless you're filthy rich, that's a lot of money to layout on a gun when something much cheaper will do.  If you're practicing with it as you should, you'll have a lot of holster wear.  If you ever have to use it, you very well might be told to drop it to the ground/pavement.  If it's taken in to a police dept. property room as evidence, it likely won't be treated with the same care you would, and it could be *years* before you ever get it back...if at all.  At which point, give the wait time, are you going to go ahead and order *two* $4,000 guns in case one's held up in the evidence room?

I'd also point out that during it's 107 year history as a defensive pistol, if you're referring to its tenure in the military, I can't think of any units that are or were carrying them concealed.  Most of the folks I've interacted with in high-speed units carrying concealed were carrying either Glock 19s or Glock 26s, with a minority carrying M11s (Sig P228/229).  I did meet one guy (MARSOC) carrying a Springfield XD, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't an issued gun, and he wasn't carrying concealed.

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Post by james r chapman on 8/27/2018, 6:09 am

and just a note, old reliable military 1911's, weren't they loosy goosy to operate in all conditions, not super tight, accurate Ferrari's?
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Post by Wobbley on 8/27/2018, 9:14 am

I think they were loosey goosey as a result of the requirement that all parts from all manufacturers must interchange.
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Post by 1joel1 on 8/27/2018, 9:42 am

One other consideration, as an EDC gun, in the very, very unlikely event you ever use it, there's a good chance that you'll never get it back. The lawyer fees to get it back will be greater than the price of the pistol. As much as I dislike the plastic guns, they have their place.

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Post by GaryWWhite on 8/27/2018, 10:53 am

You know guys I never thought of never getting the gun back or being held in police impound forever if involved in a shooting.  I belong to CCW Safe whose package provides an identical replacement gun (they say).  I think I will get this gun to shoot Bullseye and carry my relatively inexpensive (Wilsonized) TRP for an EDC. I would only be out about $2,000 if this gun was impounded.  I have been carrying the full sized 1911 TRP for quite some time.  I don't carry my Wilson Combat.  I am 6'3" 260lbs and I don't notice the weight.  When I need to unbuckle my belt I remove the gun from the holster and gingerly place it on a flat surface (that has been covered of course).

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EDC worth losing.

Post by 8eightring on 8/27/2018, 12:17 pm

I absolutely love 1911 firearms. That said, I tried carrying them and they were so heavy they pulled my pants down :-(.
Also, I sweat profusely. Sweat won't hurt a plastic frame. Glocks are ugly pistols with terrible triggers. If my Glock is impounded, I would not consider it a big loss.
Just my 2 cents worth.

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