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1911 Drill & Tap Question

Post by brassmaster on 8/31/2018, 4:13 pm

I just know enough about gunsmithing to be dangerous, so here is my question to those that do know. When a 1911 slide is drilled & tapped for an optic's base mount, do the holes completely penetrate the slide?
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Post by james r chapman on 8/31/2018, 4:25 pm

Mine all did.
It's a pretty thin wall.
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/31/2018, 4:33 pm

Yup

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Post by brassmaster on 8/31/2018, 4:43 pm

Thanks Jim & Zane--appreciated! I did notice that a 1911 slide doesn't have much meat to it.
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Post by bullseye on 8/31/2018, 4:58 pm

brassmaster wrote:Thanks Jim & Zane--appreciated! I did notice that a 1911 slide doesn't have much meat to it.

Check out the current Colt 1911's.
Some of them are scary thin..... No

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Post by jglenn21 on 8/31/2018, 5:41 pm

for a four screw rail..

front two screws always.

back two ? sometimes.
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Post by JKR on 8/31/2018, 5:53 pm

jglenn21 wrote:for a four screw rail..

front two screws always.

back two ? sometimes.
The front two. Yes

The back two. Into the firing pin channel? NO!

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Post by jglenn21 on 8/31/2018, 5:58 pm

I agree but I've seen it done....Ok if you hone the tunnel but not the best idea.
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Post by Larry2520 on 8/31/2018, 7:19 pm

I've drilled and tapped two of my own and all four holes are clear through. Once drilled tapping is the worst part. Go slowly and I mean very slowly with plenty of lube. If you break a tap you'll play he** getting it out if it breaks off low.

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Post by jglenn21 on 8/31/2018, 7:40 pm

two words


Tap Magic (original formula)
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Re: 1911 Drill & Tap Question

Post by fc60 on 8/31/2018, 7:58 pm

Greetings,

Be sure to use fine pitch taps. i.e. 6-40, not 6-32, for best holding strength.

A tap guide or other method to keep the tap perpendicular to the work.

Also, be professional and chamfer the tapped hole 90 degrees.

Clean with Trichloroethylene and apply a drop of Blue LocTite to the threads.

Oil the assembly after the LocTite cures, about 24 hours.

Cheers,

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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/31/2018, 8:01 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings,

Be sure to use fine pitch taps. i.e. 6-40, not 6-32, for best holding strength.

A tap guide or other method to keep the tap perpendicular to the work.

Also, be professional and chamfer the tapped hole 90 degrees.

Clean with Trichloroethylene and apply a drop of Blue LocTite to the threads.

Oil the assembly after the LocTite cures, about 24 hours.

Cheers,

Dave
wouldn't 8-36 be better?
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Post by Jon Eulette on 8/31/2018, 8:07 pm

All the scope rails I’ve seen come with 6-40 screws and are countersunk accordingly. To use 8-36 you would need to re-drill the clearance holes in the rail and then countersink them.  So is 8-36 better? Sure it is. But most people don’t want to pay the extra charge to get them. 
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Post by Wobbley on 8/31/2018, 8:08 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:
fc60 wrote:Greetings,

Be sure to use fine pitch taps. i.e. 6-40, not 6-32, for best holding strength.

A tap guide or other method to keep the tap perpendicular to the work.

Also, be professional and chamfer the tapped hole 90 degrees.

Clean with Trichloroethylene and apply a drop of Blue LocTite to the threads.

Oil the assembly after the LocTite cures, about 24 hours.

Cheers,

Dave
wouldn't 8-36 be better?
Not necessarily.  Depending on the slide thickness you may not have enough threads.  It takes at least three full threads to get any significant clamping on a screw.  After you have 7 you get almost no increase in clamping...so if your gonna go up to 8 go to 8-40 or better.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/31/2018, 8:08 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:All the scope rails I’ve seen come with 6-40 screws and are countersunk accordingly. To use 8-36 you would need to re-drill the clearance holes in the rail and then countersink them.  So is 8-36 better? Sure it is. But most people don’t want to pay the extra charge to get them. 
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but its more  better!
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/31/2018, 8:49 pm

1/4"-20 bolts or nothing. Go big or go home.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/31/2018, 9:12 pm

zanemoseley wrote:1/4"-20 bolts or nothing. Go big or go home.
that is a terrible idea
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Post by zanemoseley on 8/31/2018, 10:03 pm

Lol of course I was joking. My luck someone would actually do that.

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Re: 1911 Drill & Tap Question

Post by james r chapman on 9/1/2018, 6:44 am

I just made a sleeve for my slide so the 1/4 -20's would work.
solid as a rock.
with the matchdot II it's steady as a rock.
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