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200 SWC over BE powder

Post by Sheriff1962 on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:00 pm

With 200swc lead/cast bullets , what are some known good loads  using BE powder ? For 50 and 25 yards .

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Post by javaduke on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:06 pm

My load is 3.7gr BE, it is very accurate at 50 and soft enough for 25 too.

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Post by Chris Miceli on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:07 pm

Looks at the sticky of petloads
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Post by bullseye on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:43 pm

Sheriff1962 wrote:With 200swc lead/cast bullets , what are some known good loads  using BE powder ? For 50 and 25 yards .
 3.8grs of Bullseye with a 200gr SWC.

That load is like potato chips, once you shoot one you can't stop.

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Post by john bickar on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:48 pm

I had to get a load under 700fps because reasons, and I got it with 3.4gn of 452AA.
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Post by Sheriff1962 on Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:09 pm

My friend loaded some very hard 200swc with 4 gr of BE. functioned 100% with 16lb spring and was very accurate at 25.  I cant wait to try it at 50.

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Post by Wobbley on Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:54 pm

Look at the pic in my avatar.  3.8 BE 200 SWC.  25 yards from a rest.
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:34 am

Wobbley wrote:Look at the pic in my avatar.  3.8 BE 200 SWC.  25 yards from a rest.

From a rest?  I don’t mean to be impolite, but at 25 yds that should be nearly a single hole.  If it’s a Random rest, it took a couple forum members with infinite patience to try and teach me how to use one.   It still takes me a while to set it up and get reliable and repeatable results.  I tested a Colt Commander that I had minor work done on by Dave sams with a another member.  Great group, but also shot the one below...lol.  If it’s off a bench, you’ve got me by a mile, I can’t get anything to group.

10 shots at 50 YDS
Factory barrel
Colt Commander 
185gr JSWC




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Post by Tim:H11 on Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:49 pm

It’s entirely possible for multiple guns to like the same load but it’s also entirely possible and perhaps more probable that you may not be able to shoot the same load that someone else recommends. It depends on what your gun likes. 

The sweet spot that I’ve come to learn for a powder charge (using Bullseye powder) using the 200 grain LSWC is anywhere from about 3.4 up to 4.2 give or take a tenth or two. 

For me I’ve had really good success with 3.5 grains of Bullseye under that 200 grain LSWC. At both distances. Some people shoot something comparable to that charge at 25 but a hotter charge at 50. I used to shoot 3.5 at 25 and 4.0 at 50. It will depend on your gun. 

Fortunately for me my gun will function and shoot well with a light load so I use a light load. I want to use the lightest load I can so I don’t fatigue and burn out before the match is over. 

Always test the Ammo at 50 yards not just 25. A light load that shoots out the X ring at 25 won’t necessarily be only a little bigger of a group at 50. Don’t assume and use it. It could be a whole lot bigger. At longer distances things get screwy.
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Post by bruce martindale on Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:02 pm

Mechanical accuracy is also not the same as operational accuracy. It can be superb in a RR and still hard to use well. Two cents, no change.

I believe slow stuff while lower in recoil is harder to shoot if there is trigger induced motion. Thoughts?

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Post by Tim:H11 on Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:11 pm

bruce martindale wrote:
I believe slow stuff while lower in recoil is harder to shoot if there is trigger induced motion. Thoughts?

I think slower ammunition though it may test accurate can be grip sensistve. I have no proof of it. I just noticed I have been able to shoot a hotter load with a little more forgiveness on my mistakes. If I made a shot and called it a little off to the left then with a hotter load it might be a scratch 10 or inside 9. With a light load it’s a solid 9 or wide/scratch 9. 

If you’re wondering why I don’t just shoot two loads (one for 50 and one for 25) it’s because I don’t like recoil and I don’t like having to set up the press back and forth and weighing powder charges. My press is set for one load that works and that’s that. If it means I have to be more careful and exact about my shots then I see it as an opportunity to train harder and learn to shoot better.
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