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Post by BE Mike on 9/14/2018, 3:36 pm

Would anyone like to share their pet load for .38 SPL, using a hard cast 158 gr. LSWC and HP-38 or Winchester 231? This would be shot from a S&W revolver.
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Post by LenV on 9/14/2018, 3:52 pm

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Post by desben on 9/14/2018, 4:08 pm

Hi Mike, are you tied to 158 projectiles? If you don't mind 148 wadcutters, I think they're easier to get to shoot straight.  2.9gr - 3.1gr using win 231 with 148 wadcutter seated flush should give good ammo.
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Post by LenV on 9/14/2018, 4:11 pm

He is tied to 158 gr to be legal for distinguished. RN or SWC.
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Post by BE Mike on 9/14/2018, 5:53 pm

I've loaded countless .38 SPL wadcutters and LSWC's with Alliant Bullseye over the years. I just ventured into loading with HP-38. I settled on a load of 3.1 grains of HP-38 with a 148 gr. swaged HBWC. That seems to be a popular load that is comparable to 2.7-2.8 grains of Alliant Bullseye. Now I'm looking for a good load with a hard cast 158 gr. SWC with the HP-38. I thought some folks on here might have a good load worked out with HP-38 that I could use for a starting point.
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Post by oldsalt444 on 9/14/2018, 5:55 pm

In my K-38 I've settled on 3.5 gr. Titegroup under a SWAGED Magnus 158 gr. SWC. Gives me 1.3" groups at 25 yards.  Haven't tested it at 50 yet.  I like Titegroup because it's a ball powder that measures consistently and smoothly and it's not sensitive to case position.  Load works great with 158 gr. JHP bullets too, but that's not technically legal for DR.
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Post by james r chapman on 9/14/2018, 6:33 pm

BE Mike wrote:I've loaded countless .38 SPL wadcutters and LSWC's with Alliant Bullseye over the years. I just ventured into loading with HP-38. I settled on a load of 3.1 grains of HP-38 with a 148 gr. swaged HBWC. That seems to be a popular load that is comparable to 2.7-2.8 grains of Alliant Bullseye. Now I'm looking for a good load with a hard cast 158 gr. SWC with the HP-38. I thought some folks on here might have a good load worked out with HP-38 that I could use for a starting point.
Please review the URL that was posted. Your answers will be there I believe..
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Post by JIMPGOV on 9/14/2018, 9:23 pm

BEFORE I STARTED USING WST I LOADED LOTS OF 158 HARD CAST WITH 231(IDENTICAL TO HP-38). 3.3 GR 231 WITH HARD CAST IS ABOUT A PERFECT DISTINGUISHED LOAD. JP

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Post by Wobbley on 9/14/2018, 9:51 pm

In here they recommended 4.0 to 4.5 gr.

http://castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Winchester/Winchester14.pdf
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Post by BE Mike on 9/15/2018, 9:10 am

JIMPGOV wrote:BEFORE I STARTED USING WST I LOADED LOTS OF 158 HARD CAST WITH 231(IDENTICAL TO HP-38). 3.3 GR 231 WITH HARD CAST IS ABOUT A PERFECT DISTINGUISHED LOAD. JP
Thanks JIMPGOV. That is what I was looking for. I was thinking of 3.5 grains of HP-38, so I wasn't too far off. For the others, thank you. I did read the link posted and found nothing to specifically answer my question. I'm looking for bullseye accuracy. Their isn't much information out there addressing that specifically and I find that the average reloader thinks that a good group at 7 yards means that a load is accurate and we know better.
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Post by Dcforman on 9/15/2018, 9:14 am

JIMPGOV, what's your load with WST? Thanks!

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Post by JIMPGOV on 9/15/2018, 4:25 pm

3.1 WST  JP

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Post by kidneyboy Yesterday at 6:24 am

BE Mike wrote:
JIMPGOV wrote:BEFORE I STARTED USING WST I LOADED LOTS OF 158 HARD CAST WITH 231(IDENTICAL TO HP-38). 3.3 GR 231 WITH HARD CAST IS ABOUT A PERFECT DISTINGUISHED LOAD. JP
Thanks JIMPGOV. That is what I was looking for. I was thinking of 3.5 grains of HP-38, so I wasn't too far off. For the others, thank you. I did read the link posted and found nothing to specifically answer my question. I'm looking for bullseye accuracy. Their isn't much information out there addressing that specifically and I find that the average reloader thinks that a good group at 7 yards means that a load is accurate and we know better.

I can't personally speak for 50yd accuracy but 3.5gr of W231 is excellent at 25yds out of my K frames.

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