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Post by xringdave on 9/28/2018, 8:01 pm

Have some Speer .357.5, Remington .358, Winchester .359 HBWC bullets. Where should I start.
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by PhotoEscape on 9/28/2018, 8:09 pm

2.8-2.9gr BE.  RR test, it might be start and end as well!  Watch for skirt separation.
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by Multiracer on 9/28/2018, 8:37 pm

Are those all hollow body or flat nosed ?
The 52 magazine is tricky.

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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by Jon Eulette on 9/28/2018, 9:07 pm

Make sure you crimp them enough. Easy not to Wink
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by Wobbley on 9/28/2018, 9:35 pm

The best?  The consensus is the Remington will be best but the Winchester shot well for me.  The Speer shot OK and can be acceptable.  These look to be the old style Speers with knurled “lube grooves”.  For all of these keep the velocity under 800 fps.  2.7-2.9 BE or WST.  As Jon says crimp the case mouth over the front of the bullet, use a factory wadcutter as a guide in setting the crimp.  

The Remington and Winchester bullets have been discontinued for sale as components.  Alternates are out there and some have good luck with Zero and others.
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by desben on 9/29/2018, 6:49 am

3.1gr of Win 231 should also be a good load in the 52 if you don't have Bullseye or WST. I use 2.7 of WST myself in a revolver.

Once you need more projectiles, Zero, Magnus and Precision Delta have all received positive comments on this board.
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by oldsalt444 on 9/30/2018, 1:18 am

2.7 WST is considered "the load" for the 148 HBWC.  2.6 Titegroup is also a good choice.  Both have given me very good results.  The good ol' standby of 2.8 Bullseye is hard to beat.
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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by zanemoseley on 9/30/2018, 8:46 am

oldsalt444 wrote:2.7 WST is considered "the load" for the 148 HBWC.  2.6 Titegroup is also a good choice.  Both have given me very good results.  The good ol' standby of 2.8 Bullseye is hard to beat.
Wouldn't your WST load be a larger drop than your BE load? WST is known to be not as hot as BE.

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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by KB2MBC on 9/30/2018, 10:06 am

Jon Eulette wrote:Make sure you crimp them enough. Easy not to Wink
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Roll or Taper?
When I acquired my first M52, I searched all over and found roughly a 50/50 mix between the two.
So I purchased a Redding Taper Crimp for .38 Special and have done that ever since. Never had a feeding issue either other than excessive leading with a particular brand of HBWC.

Referring to the OPs post:
Personally, I'd use the Speer for practice/training. Save the Remington's for the long line (if they are the HBWC black lube). Give the Winchesters a whirl at the long line too.
For a long time, I used the Hornady HBWC and I think they shot rather well, even at 50 yards.
I also prefer the Zero HBWC and the Remington HBWC (with the nasty black crud lube)
I do not bastardize the bullet with changing the lube, they travel to the target as they left the shipping container, only a little faster.

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Re: Best HBWC for S&W 52

Post by oldsalt444 on 9/30/2018, 1:17 pm

zanemoseley wrote:
oldsalt444 wrote:2.7 WST is considered "the load" for the 148 HBWC.  2.6 Titegroup is also a good choice.  Both have given me very good results.  The good ol' standby of 2.8 Bullseye is hard to beat.
Wouldn't your WST load be a larger drop than your BE load? WST is known to be not as hot as BE.

I've wondered about that myself.  Can't account for the why and how of it, but I do know these loads produce some good groups.  Tried and true.
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