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Post by DGW on Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:56 pm

Ive been shooting a used High Standard. Its having miss fire issues and will be visiting the gun smith to be resolved. While that's being done I want to order a new gun.  The list of possibility's are Feinwerkbau AW93 , Hammerli X esse, Walther SSP and GSP and the Pardini. I'm liking the Walthers. Any input pros or cons ?

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Post by Tim:H11 on Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:25 pm

Clean the breech face really well on that HS. I had some failure to fire issues and cleaning the breech face and chamber solved it. Too much crud cushions the blow of the firing pin.
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Post by Sc0 on Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:45 pm

1911 conversion? Might need to have one Ransom tested for accuracy to ease my mind.

One that you left off is Benelli MP95.

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Post by JKR on Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:58 pm

22's are a lot of fun. I recommend trying as many as you can before buying.  I've owned and tried several. My favorite so far is the Benelli MP90. A friend loaned me his GSP to shoot a match with and I really liked it too. I always wanted a Hammerli and recently bought a beautiful 215. While I can shoot a great slow fire with it, it's just not doing it for me in sustained fire. I'm considering offering it for sale or trade.

Just about any reasonable 22 will have the accuracy needed for Bullseye. It's just a matter of what works best for you.

Have fun with your search for the perfect 22.

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Post by Tim:H11 on Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:03 pm

If you consider a conversion I’ve shot 891 as a personal best with my Nelson and a personal best slow fire at 50 yards, a 100-6X. They shoot very well after having a lower set up.
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Post by 10sandxs on Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:08 pm

+1 on the conversions. Ive shot a marvel for about 15 years. My personal high is 890 and I've shot several 100-10xs from short line. Never cleaned a long.line, but a lot of 99s. It still shoots, but as I haven't done my part to keep the gun makers profitable, my Nelson should be here in a few weeks.

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Post by cdrt on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:24 pm

DGW wrote:Ive been shooting a used High Standard. Its having miss fire issues and will be visiting the gun smith to be resolved. While that's being done I want to order a new gun.  The list of possibility's are Feinwerkbau AW93 , Hammerli X esse, Walther SSP and GSP and the Pardini. I'm liking the Walthers. Any input pros or cons ?
Broken firing pin, more than likely.  That always seems to be the problem when a HS starts acting up.
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Post by 7tcu on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:45 am

I own 3 of your possibilities the xesse, SSP, and the GSP. I do not shoot completion only for fun. I like the xesse and the SSP the best. I shoot the SSP better than the others. Good luck in your endeavor.
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Post by Steve B on Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:07 pm

I recently sold my Hammerli 208S in favor of a steel slide 22 conversion and lower built by my gunsmith.  It shouldn't be long before the it eclipses the top scores from the Hammerli.

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Post by CrankyThunder on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:49 am

Good Morning, 

I own a pardini and a fwb.  plus I have shot most of the others you have mentioned.  I would have to go with the pardini for a number of reasons, support from pardini usa, the recoil system, the high quality of the firearm, and the flexibility of the grip using dick hortons aftermarket grips.  

head on over to rimfire central and a little bit of searching will provide tons of interesting information.
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Post by zanemoseley on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:58 am

If you're interested in the Walther GSP you can find lightly used ones on GB for about $1k, maybe a bit more if you want one with the newer 2 stage trigger. You're not gonna find a Pardini for under $2k most likely. Also parts are plentiful for the GSP.

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Post by 10sandxs on Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:12 am

I'm sorry if this sounds snarky, it is not meant to be, and t is certainly not meant to be offensive to the poster, but I do chuckle whenever we talk about recoil reduction on our rimfires knowing that the 45 is a mere 90 rounds away...

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Post by robert84010 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:14 pm

10sandxs wrote:I'm sorry if this sounds snarky, it is not meant to be, and t is certainly not meant to be offensive to the poster, but I do chuckle whenever we talk about recoil reduction on our rimfires knowing that the 45 is a mere 90 rounds away...
You've shot 890, please be as snarky as you like. It's called a reality check on some of this stuff.

btw, why didn't you buy another Marvel since it has obviously served you well. you can PM if you don't want to detract from the post. thx.

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Post by Jon Eulette on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:40 pm

I’m putting my 208S on the shelf and shooting my Match Guns MG2 for the next year. Excellent trigger, accurate, consistent recovery back to center. Likes CCI SV! You might consider one....
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Post by SW-52 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:25 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:I’m putting my 208S on the shelf and shooting my Match Guns MG2 for the next year. Excellent trigger, accurate, consistent recovery back to center. Likes CCI SV! You might consider one....
Jon
208s are great but scarce,but if you find one,go for it.
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Post by 10sandxs on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:59 pm

robert84010 wrote:btw, why didn't you buy another Marvel since it has obviously served you well. you can PM if you don't want to detract from the post. thx.

Robert 84010, I don't want to be "that guy" that degrades others for their thoughts on guns or recoil reduction, I was just chuckling as the comment hit close to home, as I have a large steel block attached to the barrel of my marvel... for recoil reduction (ha!)  I also mount the dot pretty far forward to slow down the my arc of movement and (again) muzzle rise on firing.

I went with the nelson as I think it's a bit of an updated design.  I cracked the slide on my marvel as it was an early unit.  I had to pay for the replacement so I upgraded to steel, which at the time was reasonable, but needed some fiddeling to get it working right.  Today a steel slide marvel is over $700 (gulp) and the Nelsons I've handled and fired the past few years have shot very well and handled much more like a 45.  the nelson will be my Distinguished rimfire gun... at least that's what I told the wife ;-)

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Post by TonyT on Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:05 pm

My first serious 22 as the old Hammerli-Walther Olympia. Then I purchased a Walther GSP and finally the Pardini SP. The Hammerli and Walther were absoluite flawless in term of reliability. The Pardini had a decided preference for Wolf MT or SKJagd ammo. The only reason for switching to the Pardini was to reduce muzzle weight as I aged.

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