Burn rate of VVN310 VS W231 Similar in JHP?

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Burn rate of VVN310 VS W231 Similar in JHP?

Post by daflorc on 12/12/2018, 6:52 pm

Hey all, question for those in the know - 

I was admiring one of Joe Chambers builds on Facebook today, and noticed he loaded 4.4 grains of VV310 for the wadgun he built. To my recollection, VV310 is a very fast powder, similar to bullseye. I shoot 4.8 grains of HP38 with Zero 185gr swaged lead hollow points in my short line loads, and the same bullet with 4.9-5 grains in my long line loads. I shot a 96 slow fire at 50 yards with this recipe last summer, figured the load was good enough for me, and never felt the need to use JHP. That said:

I exclaimed that 4.4 of VV310 seemed like a stout load for a wad gun - if memory serves me, 4.4 grains of VV310 is equal to about 5.2 or 5.3 grains of HP38/W231. Joe explained that 4.4 of VVN310 burns similar to 4.4 grains of W231 and that JHP requires a stouter load - that part makes sense, but what I can't figure out is how VV N310 is similar to W231. Does the burn rate of powders even out when shooting JHP? I've never heard of such a thing before, and I didn't want to hijack his thread, or question his knowledge - he's obviously a great gunsmith who just built a fine shooter and it would have been rude to divert the conversation further. Can anyone shed some light on this? 


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Re: Burn rate of VVN310 VS W231 Similar in JHP?

Post by apipeguy on 12/13/2018, 8:37 am

No expert at all but N-320 seems very simular to W-231 but N-310 seems to be faster and requires less do do the same. I don’t see FMJ as changing that but I’m very interested in reading others thoughts on this.
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Re: Burn rate of VVN310 VS W231 Similar in JHP?

Post by noylj on 12/15/2018, 6:15 pm

N320, 231/HP38, Green Dot, and Zip are very similar in burn rate.
N310 is the fastest powder I can find on the shelves, and should be worked up carefully as it shows pressure spikes at times.

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Re: Burn rate of VVN310 VS W231 Similar in JHP?

Post by oldsalt444 on 12/15/2018, 6:54 pm

Take a look at this:

http://www.adi-powders.com.au/powder-equivalents/
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Post by jglenn21 on 12/15/2018, 7:34 pm

4.4 gr of 231 is a very light load for a 185 JHP.  something from 5.0 - 5.5 would be more appropriate. 5.0 will be around 700 FPS with std primers(non WLP)..
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