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Post by djm026 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:38 pm

Looking to buy a new22 bullseye gun. What would be the best gun to buy. want to improve my game to the next level??

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Re: 22 bullseye gun

Post by SMBeyer on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:50 pm

What are you shooting now? Unless you are shooting something that isn't even remotely good for bullseye the best place too look for improvement is you.

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Post by jakuda on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:40 pm

there is a marvel conversion 1911 on sale now in commercial row...

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Post by ddivins on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:54 pm

Agree with Scott, what are you shooting now? What is your budget?

I love my Feinwerkbau, but it may be a bit spendy.

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Post by djm026 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:12 pm

shooting a ruger mark 3 with a bull barrel. With a aim point dot.

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Post by ddivins on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:15 pm

djm026 wrote:shooting a ruger mark 3 with a bull barrel. With a aim point dot.

Honestly, that is a good gun. A new trigger makes a world of difference on the Rugers. Now, as a gear head, I would never talk anyone out of getting a new gun. Whats the budget?

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Post by djm026 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:19 pm

sorry its a 2

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Post by djm026 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:22 pm

lets just say theres no budget.what would you buy.

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Post by ddivins on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:43 pm

No budget? I like the Feinwerkbau AW93, hard to argue against it except on price.

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Post by sixftunda on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:44 pm

If I had the money right now I would get a S&W Model 41. I currently use a High Standard 10x Citation.
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Post by tenx9 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:01 pm

Honestly, I've heard a bunch of problems with the new 41's. Buy an older one, quality .22's rarely wear out. 2nd. Marvel conversions are very accurate and they teach you to shoot a .45 trigger. 3rd. If you can afford it, buy a Hammerli 215s or 208s. Fantastic accurasy and trigger is superb if u can get used too the 2stage trigger. Had one. sorry I sold it. Problem is they dont make them anymore, so i dont know about eventual parts. WaltherGSP fine gun and can convert to .32. Limited budget? Buy the Marvel.

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Post by SMBeyer on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:04 pm

If I had no budget I'd have one of everything:) AW93, Hammerli 208s, Pardini SP new, Walther SSP (wait, I got one of those), 1911 conversion (got one of them too), Benneli mp-90... But I don't think I would shoot any of them any better than I shoot my M41. I was REAL close to buying a 208 at the end of this outdoor season at a match. I came off the line after the .22 with an 882 and decided $2200 could be put to better use somewhere else. For what its worth at our local league a 584 and a 585 has been shot mith a mkII and a mkIII Ruger so far this year. Get something you like, stick with it, learn it, love it, kiss it good night and work at the fundamentals and you will improve. The sooner you learn it's you and not the gun ( I know you can say it's not the gun but you have to BELIEVE it) the better off you will be.

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go with the Marvel

Post by Historian1972 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:39 am

If you are planning on shooting the outdoor 2700 or 1800 then the marvel is an excellent choice and it allows the shooter to get used the the weight, feel,and trigger of the .45.

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Post by DavidR on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:05 pm

AW93, 208s hamerli, hamerli exxsee is the top three imo, all have adjustable triggers. Marvels are good but finiky, ive built 4 over the last 10 years, all shot excellent but all had quirks that you just have to keep working on to get right.
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Post by djm026 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:37 pm

Im thinking the walther gsp expert any feed back on this gun??

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Post by Toz35m on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:35 pm

Another option is to buy an upper from http://www.oregonprecisionarms.com/ and then I would put a better grip on your lower and get the trigger worked on.
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Post by jakuda on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm

To be honest, all the above mentioned guns will group inside the x-ring even with cheap ammo. So the other factors are weight/balance/grip. If you have buddies at the range or the matches with the guns mentioned, ask if you can handle their pistols and maybe fire a few shots slow fire and then rapid fire.

Some of the shooters at your club may even let you borrow a pistol (usually their backup) for a range session or two. Bullseye shooters are pretty generous that way.

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Post by togfish on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:42 pm

djm026 wrote:Im thinking the walther gsp expert any feed back on this gun??

I've been shooting my GSP for a year, and many thousand rounds. Only 2 misfires. The first was a dud round. The second was a small ball of wax from the CCI SV round stuck to the feed ramp in very cold temperature causing the only FTF.

I had a Mark II before that. It shot very well with the Volquartsen accurizing parts, but had many alibis unless I used higher velocity ammo. The Walther is easier to take down for cleaning also.
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Post by Colt711 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:30 pm

Toz35m wrote:Another option is to buy an upper from http://www.oregonprecisionarms.com/ and then I would put a better grip on your lower and get the trigger worked on.

Looks like a good idea to me, unless of course you don't like the feel of the Ruger. I've not seen these as I don't get to matches anymore. Can anyone give us a firsthand report?

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Post by Jack H on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:00 pm

Toz35m wrote:Another option is to buy an upper from http://www.oregonprecisionarms.com/ and then I would put a better grip on your lower and get the trigger worked on.

These new OPA guns are turning out to be very very good. Reliable and accurate. And David can do a great trigger job. I call mine the golden pimp gun. It goes bling and bang.

For a Ruger grip just make it fit your hand. I like the cheap plastic in my palm, and the wood thumbrest on the left. It makes a difference to me. Mix and match.
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Post by tenx9 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:26 am

I've been shooting a GSP for awhile. Except for the comp, I think they're the same gun. I also shot a Hammerli 215s for more than 15yrs, before I sold it. The Walther is a heavy gun. Believe me no bbl weights are needed. At 50yds, at least in my gun, I need to shoot quality ammo to shoot accurately. My gun hates CCI standard. At 25yds everything shoots well. The Hammerli is just a fine fine gun. The trigger is superb and its just a lighter gun with a grip angle thats just like the .45. I always believed you get what you pay for. I'm sure Rugers are ok, but you can't compare the quality. Some guys can shoot anything well, but most of us regular humans need a little help. Buy the best you can afford and then throw a couple more dollars in the bucket.

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Post by Jerry944T on Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:53 am

Don't overlook a good Hamden High Standard. Always a very accurate gun with a superior trigger. Get one with the military grip angle and it feels like a 1911.

If you get the very desirable Victor model you can remove the rib and substitute a scope rail made by Marvel with no drilling required.

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Post by Colt711 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:05 pm

Jerry944T wrote:Don't overlook a good Hamden High Standard. Always a very accurate gun with a superior trigger. Get one with the military grip angle and it feels like a 1911.

If you get the very desirable Victor model you can remove the rib and substitute a scope rail made by Marvel with no drilling required.

These pistols are great! In their day they ruled the BE firing lines in my area, Northern Ohio. Over the course of several yrs in the 60's & 70's I informally surveyed the .22's used at our monthly 2700's and the HS made up 10 or 11 of the 12 firing points. They are still as good as ever, just not as easy to find. I used them for yrs and chg'd as at the time I judged parts etc would become a problem.

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Post by djm026 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:39 pm

:)well i got a hammerli 215s with a aimpoint comp c3. due to get gun on friday aimpoint on back order.

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great

Post by tenx9 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:09 am

I had a 215s and got out of bullseye for awhile and like a dope I sold it. Big mistake. Had the finest trigger I ever shot. Accuracy was thru the roof. Shooting under a half inch at 50yds for a 10 shot group off sandbags with a 4x scope. Now I just got a .22LR conversion for my Walther OSP to shoot bullseye. Accuracy and trigger arent close. Nice gun the GSP but I'm sorry i ever sold the 215s. Good luck u made a fine choice

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