22 slow fire

Go down

22 slow fire

Post by djm026 on 2/11/2013, 1:45 pm

I am left handed and seem to shoot every thing a little right and low in slow fire. Then in time and rapid everything is very good. I am thinking on shooting my slow fire like a timed fire target. Need some advise please dont really think i should shoot slow fire like timed fire.

djm026

Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 51
Location : Latrobe,Pa

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by jakuda on 2/11/2013, 1:55 pm

The classic response which may hold true in your case is that you're "snatching" the perfect shot in slowfire, while in timed/rapid, you're smoothly pulling the trigger back to get the shots off.

A corollary example, is how some shooters proclaim it's easier for them to get more Xs in 22 rapid fire than in timed. A reason may be that in timed fire shooters think they have a lot of time (and they do) so they fiddlefaddle and try to snatch the perfect shot which tends to mess up their trigger pull.

jakuda

Posts : 225
Join date : 2011-07-07
Age : 36
Location : CA

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by djm026 on 2/11/2013, 2:15 pm

How long do you normally take to fire 1 shot in slow fire.I do tend to hold the gun up pretty long before letting the shot go.

djm026

Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 51
Location : Latrobe,Pa

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by HUGHT on 2/11/2013, 2:33 pm

I most always shoot 10 shots in 5 to 6 minutes. I have noticed that most shooters, expert and up, take about the same amount of time. That comes to about 30 seconds per shot sequence. Once you settle in start your trigger squeeze and come on through.

HUGHT

Posts : 37
Join date : 2012-07-16
Age : 82
Location : Georgia

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by djm026 on 2/11/2013, 2:42 pm

do very many people shoot slow fire like a timed fire target??

djm026

Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 51
Location : Latrobe,Pa

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by sixftunda on 2/11/2013, 3:15 pm

I have never seen anyone shoot a slow fire in a timed fire cadence.
avatar
sixftunda

Posts : 460
Join date : 2012-05-18
Age : 46
Location : North Central Ohio

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by SMBeyer on 2/11/2013, 4:24 pm

Unless you are routinely shooting timed fire 100-6-7x I would not shoot slow fire like timed fire. It does seem that the low right shots would be jerking the trigger. If you are holding too long and realise that you are holding too long that is your warning alarm to put the gun down not force the shot to break. I think this forcing the shot is what is causing the low right jerk. There are no points taken off for aborting a shot. YOU have 10 min. It doesn't matter what everybody else is shooting their 10 shots in. I am typically in the 8 min. range and occasionally over nine. This winter am avareging 95 slow fire in our 50' league. Between shots visualize a smooth trigger squeeze with the shot breaking with the dot in the center as the trigger breaks. Keep telling yourself that you know how to shoot 10's and that is what you want to do. But most importantly if the shot isn't breaking don't force it. Put the gun down, reiforce that you know what and how to shoot a 10 and start over. Keep a stopwatch so you know how much time has elapsed and don't worry about how much time you are taking and definately not how much others are taking. Cofidence and discipline to put that gun down and you will see improvement. Scott
avatar
SMBeyer

Posts : 313
Join date : 2011-12-07
Age : 46
Location : Southern Illinois

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by jakuda on 2/11/2013, 4:34 pm

Isn't it funny how an "advanced" technique is learning when to put the gun down? It's true though.

jakuda

Posts : 225
Join date : 2011-07-07
Age : 36
Location : CA

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by lcambre on 2/12/2013, 7:02 am

I have seen a few people shoot slow fire at the rapid fire pace. In a small enough match it may score better than the other shooters. I have not seen it win at larger matches.

lcambre

Posts : 18
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : Nashua, NH

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by DavidR on 2/12/2013, 10:04 am

If you are not adjusting your dot for the added 25 yards that could cover the low shots, many 22s need about 2 clicks up from 25 to 50yds, also might want to adjust the dot one click left, a shot at 25 could be right or left with the added 25 yds. If you dont feel you are jerking shots then i would try this and see what happens.
avatar
DavidR
Admin

Posts : 3012
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 64
Location : NRA:Expert, Georgia

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by Al on 2/12/2013, 10:36 am

Hi my name is Allen and it's been 36 hours since I last screwed up a slow fire target. Now that we have the intro's out of the way.
Welcome to the weekly meeting of "Yes I too, can screw up a slow fire target anonymous".
Slow fire has always been my worst portion of the match. I peak & valley between 72's and 98's with the majority around 86-89. I also used to take 9 minutes and 50 seconds to shoot a slow fire.
Of late I have been really watching my wobble and found if the shot breaks between 3-5 seconds after I start lifting the pistol off the bench a larger % of the shots are 9's and 10's. If I go longer, 8's, 7's and 6's creep onto the scoresheet. I keep track of my scores and notes on what I'm doing differently, so I'll se where this goes.

I don't know where I read it, but I remember someone posting to the effect you should only have one trigger squeeze for all portions of the match, Slow, Timed, and Rapid. Don't try to develope a different trigger technique for slow, you wind up trying to perfect the shot, and that just doesn't work well for me anyway.
FWIW

Al

Posts : 356
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 63
Location : Bismarck, ND

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by sixftunda on 2/12/2013, 12:31 pm

Al wrote:
I don't know where I read it, but I remember someone posting to the effect you should only have one trigger squeeze for all portions of the match, Slow, Timed, and Rapid. Don't try to develope a different trigger technique for slow, you wind up trying to perfect the shot, and that just doesn't work well for me anyway.
FWIW


That right there is my problem. My trigger pull for slow fire is different than timed/rapid. I accept the wobble of my dot in timed/rapid and squeeze the trigger as son as the dot is in the black. In slow I try to snatch the bull.
avatar
sixftunda

Posts : 460
Join date : 2012-05-18
Age : 46
Location : North Central Ohio

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by DeweyHales on 2/12/2013, 3:05 pm

Al wrote:Of late I have been really watching my wobble and found if the shot breaks between 3-5 seconds after I start lifting the pistol off the bench a larger % of the shots are 9's and 10's. If I go longer, 8's, 7's and 6's creep onto the scoresheet.

I echo this statement. The eyes work best early in the hold.

Raise the gun. Settle and squeeze trigger. My best shots are early in my hold.
avatar
DeweyHales

Posts : 607
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : North Carolina

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by Bruce M on 2/12/2013, 3:20 pm

sixftunda wrote:
Al wrote:
I don't know where I read it, but I remember someone posting to the effect you should only have one trigger squeeze for all portions of the match, Slow, Timed, and Rapid. Don't try to develope a different trigger technique for slow, you wind up trying to perfect the shot, and that just doesn't work well for me anyway.
FWIW


That right there is my problem. My trigger pull for slow fire is different than timed/rapid. I accept the wobble of my dot in timed/rapid and squeeze the trigger as son as the dot is in the black. In slow I try to snatch the bull.


This is definetly what I do as well.

Bruce M

Posts : 21
Join date : 2012-10-28
Age : 55
Location : Huntington, Indiana

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by djm026 on 2/13/2013, 6:40 pm

well I am going to give it a try tomorrow night. Try to let the shot of sooner..

djm026

Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 51
Location : Latrobe,Pa

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by djm026 on 2/15/2013, 2:53 pm

Well dont know if it was luck or not but shot a 94 in slow fire last night. I tried to shoot the shot with in 6 sec .I had 6 -10s 3- 9s and 1 -7 ended up with a 287 9x was pretty happy with that. Had a bad timmed fire target or I would of been in the mid 290s.

djm026

Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 51
Location : Latrobe,Pa

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by HUGHT on 2/15/2013, 4:22 pm

There is no luck to it. Just good technique, concentration and practice.
Good shooting and keep it up

HUGHT

Posts : 37
Join date : 2012-07-16
Age : 82
Location : Georgia

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by Colt711 on 2/17/2013, 1:03 am

Scot,
An excellent instruction for shooting a good SF shot!!
I read somwhere, maybe Gil's Treasury, one of the shooter's said "rely on the fundamentals, they won't desert you".
How often do we search for a solution and only find it by just looking at the dot and pressing the trigger evenly?
Ron

Colt711

Posts : 427
Join date : 2012-06-07
Age : 76
Location : Hudson, Florida

Back to top Go down

Re: 22 slow fire

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum