Barrel relines for the S&W model 41

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Barrel relines for the S&W model 41

Post by Virgil Kane on 2/13/2013, 1:52 pm

Can anybody tell me who does quality barrel relines for the S&W model 41?

I waited to long to buy a Bully Barrel and lost out on that opportunity and not so sure that a Clark barrel is the away to go.

Reline ???
Other ideas ???

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Post by Jerry Keefer on 2/13/2013, 2:38 pm

Virgil Kane wrote:Can anybody tell me who does quality barrel relines for the S&W model 41?
Reline ???
Virgil
Virgil;
I used to make 41 barrels from Lilja blanks. They shot very well..
Also a lot of work/machining...
I started relining barrels almost 10 years ago with Lothar Walther blanks. They shot even better. I believe strongly, the reason is, that the liner is suspended in the adhesive, and is virtually stress free.
Alex Hamilton does a lot of 41 liners. He's the one who hooked me up with the LW blanks. I believe David Sams, also does them. I am too swamped to take on any more work... Make sure you specify LW blanks. Blanks are available @ 10 mm; 16mm and 1 ea. diameter. 10 works great for the 41 and 16mm for Marvels.
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Post by Virgil Kane on 2/13/2013, 4:00 pm

Thank you Jerry for that information.

If I may can I ask you a question? When a gunsmith does the reline do they need the whole firearm or can just the barrel be sent? Not that it's a problem to ship the whole firearm but it's less hassle to just send the barrel if that will suffice.

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Post by BE Mike on 2/13/2013, 4:24 pm

I'll also plug Alex Hamilton's work. I have had him do work for me and it was very well done. I've seen S&W model 41's that he has relined and I don't think you can find any better.
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Post by Jerry Keefer on 2/13/2013, 5:16 pm

Virgil Kane wrote:Thank you Jerry for that information.

If I may can I ask you a question? When a gunsmith does the reline do they need the whole firearm or can just the barrel be sent? Not that it's a problem to ship the whole firearm but it's less hassle to just send the barrel if that will suffice.

Thanks again
Virgil

I can't speak for Alex or Dave, but I require the whole gun. The extractor must be refit. I machine the extractor slot in the parent barrel over size, and silver solder a slug in place, before I drill and ream the barrel for the liner. After the liner is in place, I re-cut the extractor slot. This leaves a seamless transition between the liner and original barrel for smooth extractor cam out, and prevents the extractor from breaking thru the chamber wall in the future.

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Post by Virgil Kane on 2/13/2013, 7:54 pm

That makes sense that the whole gun would be needed.

Does anybody have a web site or e-mail for Hamilton or Sams?

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Post by hamdenman on 2/13/2013, 10:26 pm

Ten-Ring Precision, Inc.
1449 Blue Crest Lane
San Antonio, Texas 78232
PHONE: (210) 494-3063
FAX: (210) 494-3066
EMAIL: alex@tenring.com

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Post by Jerry Keefer on 2/14/2013, 9:56 am

Here's a photo of the slug in place prior to drill/ream

Drill/ream complete, ready for the liner; the slug will be machined to accommodate the breech face / extractor.

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Post by Virgil Kane on 2/15/2013, 7:47 am

Thanks for the photo's Jerry! Much easier to understand when seeing the pictures. I have contacted a couple of smiths and would have to ask, how are the Hammerelli (spelling?) barrel liners? One of the smiths said that's what he uses and not the Lilja liners. I would imagine that the accuracy comes more from a good gunsmith and excellent work than a difference in barrel liners as long as those are quality too?

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Post by Jerry Keefer on 2/15/2013, 8:27 am

Virgil Kane wrote:Thanks for the photo's Jerry! Much easier to understand when seeing the pictures. I have contacted a couple of smiths and would have to ask, how are the Hammerelli (spelling?) barrel liners? One of the smiths said that's what he uses and not the Lilja liners. I would imagine that the accuracy comes more from a good gunsmith and excellent work than a difference in barrel liners as long as those are quality too?

Virgil

Hi Virgil

The Lilja blanks were used to make the entire 41 barrel from scratch. Turning a one inch blank to liner size, is not a good idea. Lothar Walther can supply liners in various sizes, which reduces the amount of stock removal to align the axis. (OD/ID) Although I have never used Hammerli liners, Hammerli has an excellent reputation, and I would predict a satisfying outcome.

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