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Post by scrum derringer Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:57 am

I am literally hours away from picking up my new to me Clark .38 spl heavy slide. Very excited especially when the seller thought it was a .38 super. None the less, it may be awhile until I am able to get to a range to try it out. My question to 1911 .38 special owners involves a plethora of .38 rounds that I currently have. I am aware that for the 1911 in .38, the bullets must be flush and are usually 148g. The bullets that I have are around 145-ish grains w/lube, and have a very short cone/ button nose. Hopefully the picture shows up and you can see, but my guess is that with the bullet seated flush, the nose sticks out about 1/8", if that. I believe the bullet is a H& G #50 mold. Any insight would be appreciated. I don't want to risk loading a bunch up and go to a pay range only for them not to work without a little advice. I only ask because I have probably 1.5k and don't do much revolver shooting. Thanks, and there will be more questions to come...
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Post by C.Perkins Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:03 am

If the Colt magazine is anything like my Model 52-1 magazine then those loads will not fit in the magazine.

Others that know the Colt will chime in shortly.

Congrats on the new purchase.

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Post by Virgil Kane Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:04 am

I don't know about the Clark 1911 in 38 Special but they will not work in my S&W model 52 (I have the same # 50 H&G mold) UNLESS I seat them backwards or nose first into the case and then seat them flush.

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Post by Dr.Don Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:43 am

Mine never shot anything well besides hollow base wadcutters. You're probably going to wind up there anyway.
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Post by DavidR Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:38 pm

My clark 38 would not feed anything but full wadcutters with a slight roll crimp.
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Post by Flyfisherman Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:17 pm

My Clark .38 will feed and chamber loads that will not feed and chamber in my S&W 52. My 52 requires that the bullet be seated not further than flush with the case mouth (because they won't fit in the magazine otherwise). the Clark will take bullets seated with about "thumbnail" or maybe a little more showing above the case mouth. If you can get them into them magazine and they move up and down freely in the magazine without binding they will likely feed OK in the Clark. It looks to me though from the picture that yours would not fit freely in my Colt magazines. /MK

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Post by gimble88 Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:55 pm

You'll find out soon enough, but I have seen a similar bullet used in a Giles/Colt .38 special with no problems. I was surprised because, as everyone else has said, that bullet wouldn't even go in my 52 magazine.

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Post by scrum derringer Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:06 pm

Thanks everyone for the help and advice. I picked up the Clark from the FFL and I'm pretty happy with it. I loaded the dummy round in the mag and it appears to fit when pressed down into it. The mag is a .38 super converted mag. I let the slide fly on the dummy round and it loaded just fine. However, upon slowly racking the slide to remove the round, I noticed that there was a ding on the button of the bullet that sticks out. The edge of the bullet appeared to be fine. I may just have to try and load them backwards to eliminate the button nose. This 1911 will be primarily used for a 50' indoor winter police league and the occasional outdoor 25 yard shoot. I will definitely make the move to the HBWC's soon. The next question is magazine related, are Triple K's any good. I know Clark's repo is the way to go but for the price of the Triple K's, are they really bad?
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Post by Dave C. Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:35 am

Take the money that you are going to spend on Tripple K Mag's and thow it away. This will save you the shipping cost. Buy the mag from Clark and in the long run it will be cheaper.
The above is IMO.

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