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Post by Jwhelan939 on Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:53 pm

I have been wanting to get into bullseye for a long time. I was just saving for a good 22. I finally got all setup with a beautiful handbuilt Volquartsen scorpion. I brought it to the range and it is amazingly accurate. The one handed 4-5" group @ 25yds from my Ruger mk III translated to a 2" group with the Scorpion. The only problem is that I just read the nra pistol rulebook and I'm now concerned I can't use my Volquartsen Volthane Grips. Section 3.1.A.2 says "The stock must be functionally identical for right or left hand use." Am I reading this right? I feel like a large portion of the grips I have seen at the range wouldn't meet this criteria. Can I not use the Volthanes? Thanks for the help. Getting into this sport can be a little overwhelming. I am thankful to have this forum!

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Post by C.Perkins on Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:27 pm

Anatomical grips are allowed for Bullseye competition.
There is a restriction to them under the section "grips"
I have seen those grips that you speak of and they should be fine.

Clarence

PS: I just looked at the rule book and do not see a section 3.1.A.2 or anything written as you stated.
Wrong rule book ?


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Re: Bullseye grips

Post by C.Perkins on Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:52 pm

http://competitions.nra.org/official-nra-rule-books.aspx

Try the above link.
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Post by scrum derringer on Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:19 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote: Section 3.1.A.2 says "The stock must be functionally identical for right or left hand use."  Am I reading this right? 
Yes you are reading correctly, however that section is for Service Pistol, which would not be a .22. So you are fine. Read section 3.4 ".22 caliber Pistol or revolver." and 3.6 "Grips"
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Post by Rob Kovach on Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:50 pm

Where are you from Jwhelan?  Lets get you and your new pistol out to some matches and get you to earn your first classification!
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Post by Jwhelan939 on Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:09 pm

Awesome. I was hoping I was reading it wrong. Thank you so much for all your help. I live in pipersville, pa. Not far from Doylestown. I'm still practicing a bit before I start competing.

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Post by Rob Kovach on Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:27 pm

Don't be afraid to enter a match or 2.  as a new shooter you will gain a whole new network of new friends, and people who will give you pointers.  As long as you can keep your shots from hitting any other target, the rest is just gravy.  Go for it!
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Post by Bullseye10X on Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:45 pm

Are these legal?  They are one piece wrap-around.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/124849/hogue-wraparound-rubber-grips-with-finger-grooves-ruger-mark-iii-22-45-black

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Post by Rob Kovach on Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:42 am

Those are legal for a wadgun/NRA sanctioned matches or a .22 but not for CMP/Ball matches.

The rule of thumb is only slab style grips are legal for CMP matches.

Pretty much any grip that you can buy is legal for NRA sanctioned matches.  There are some illegal grips out there but odds of you finding them are small.

See the rulebook if you want to know all the specifics: http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/Pistol/pistol-book.pdf
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Re: Bullseye grips

Post by DavidR on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:08 am

Legal yes, a good choice, not IMO, rubber tends to get slippery when you sweat, your better off with a flat grip and put some non slip grip tape on it so it stays in the same place in your hand during recoil. On CMP legal grips, stick with factory as there is a overall grip thickness that is required to pass inspection.
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Post by mkepke on Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:13 pm

DavidR wrote:Legal yes, a good choice, not IMO, rubber tends to get slippery when you sweat, your better off with a flat grip and put some non slip grip tape on it so it stays in the same place in your hand during recoil. On CMP legal grips, stick with factory as there is a overall grip thickness that is required to pass inspection.

 Fwiw from a new shooter (me) the Hogue rubber grips are a solution to sweating, not the opposite.

Replaced the stock slabs on my MKIII and went to the range twice in hot and humid conditions..no more grip squirming.

Thanks for the heads up on the CMP regs..at least the Hogue grips are inexpensive...

-Mark

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK on Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:44 pm

DavidR wrote:Legal yes, a good choice, not IMO, rubber tends to get slippery when you sweat, your better off with a flat grip and put some non slip grip tape on it so it stays in the same place in your hand during recoil. On CMP legal grips, stick with factory as there is a overall grip thickness that is required to pass inspection.

 I thought that grip thickness was only an issue on ball guns:(
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Post by DavidR on Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:13 pm

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:
DavidR wrote:Legal yes, a good choice, not IMO, rubber tends to get slippery when you sweat, your better off with a flat grip and put some non slip grip tape on it so it stays in the same place in your hand during recoil. On CMP legal grips, stick with factory as there is a overall grip thickness that is required to pass inspection.

 I thought that grip thickness was only an issue on ball guns:(

 "On CMP legal grips, stick with factory as there is a overall grip thickness that is required to pass inspection"

CMP is ballgun
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Post by STEVE SAMELAK on Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:40 pm

I thought this thread started with a question regarding .22
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Post by DavidR on Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:35 pm

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:I thought this thread started with a question regarding .22

 It did but the OP was quoting a rule that applies to hardball guns not bullseye, I think everyone was just trying to help him see the difference.
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Re: Bullseye grips

Post by marlin1881 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:09 pm

Interesting in that the Hogue rubber finger-groove grips do get sticky when wet.  We got drenched last weekend at the state match in Gunnison.  My MK2 stuck like glue to my hand.  

As has been mentioned above, they are not legal for CMP EIC hardball matches, as the specifications are quite clear on what is, and is not, allowed.  Yes, for standard bullseye shooting, I do like the Hogues.

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