Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

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Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

Post by Bullseye10X on Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:05 am

I was hoping you guys could help me in identifying these three unknown 45 ACP headstamps.  I found a pretty decent list online, but these were either not in the list, or I cannot figure out how to find them in the list.  Sorry if I stretched the forum, I wanted to make them large enough to read.

Thanks!


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Re: Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

Post by BE Mike on Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:28 am

I believe the one on the left is Independence Ammunition, which is commercial ammo made in Lake City Arsenal, Independence, MO. The one in the middle is Remington Arms, made in 1963. The one on the right is, I think, Norinco, made in China.

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Post by Bullseye58 on Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:57 pm

You the man Mike!

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Re: Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

Post by Bullseye10X on Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:41 pm

Wow, thanks Mike!

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Re: Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

Post by GrumpyOldMan on Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:14 am

I thought RA back in that era and with the year was the USGI producer Radford Arsenal. The stuff I've seen may have all been from the 1950s. This was just before Uncle Sugar went the Government Owned, Contractor Operated arrangement which had Remington running Lake City most of the time. Maybe.

How you got me needing to look up MORE stuff. AFAIK, the Remmie stuff back then was usually headstamped Rem-UMC and had no year included.

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Post by Jack H on Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:54 am

I have a few different old 45acp ammo.
R A 41
E C 43  (steel case)
WCC 42
and a couple empty cases
REM-UMC 18
WCC 41

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Re: Need help IDing .45 Auto Headstamps

Post by BE Mike on Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:05 am

GrumpyOldMan wrote:I thought RA back in that era and with the year was the USGI producer Radford Arsenal. The stuff I've seen may have all been from the 1950s. This was just before Uncle Sugar went the Government Owned, Contractor Operated arrangement which had Remington running Lake City most of the time. Maybe.

How you got me needing to look up MORE stuff. AFAIK, the Remmie stuff back then was usually headstamped Rem-UMC and had no year included.
IIRC, Rem UMC was commercial brass. The RA with the last two numbers of the year was military brass.

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Post by xringshooter on Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:45 am

Grumpy is correct.  The brass is from Radford Arsenal, in Radford, VA.  My wife's mother worked there during WW II.  I've never seen any commercial brass with the date (year) stamped on it. FWIW, some Alliant gunpowders and the Alexander Arms series of AR-type rifles are made at the old Radford Arsenal complex today.

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