Tested my CZ P-09 9mm centerfire pistol at 100 yards on Thursday, And at 200 today

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Tested my CZ P-09 9mm centerfire pistol at 100 yards on Thursday, And at 200 today

Post by Joe L on 5/16/2014, 5:07 pm

This is the pistol I have been shooting in our local club matches since February, with good results.  I've also enjoyed shooting it at 100 yards on our rifle range, but the wind is kind of tough in West Texas in the Spring, so I have had mixed results, primarily due to my inexperience in correcting for wind when shooting a pistol.  Holding in the wind is also a problem. I've shot several sub 6" groups with this gun, but this one is by far the best to date...




The pistol/sight/ammo combination is excellent.  For a plastic gun purchased (slightly) used for $400 plus $400 worth of add-ons (sight and trigger parts), I couldn't be happier. 

Shooter still needs work.  Back to bullseye practice for the next few range sessions.


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Post by BE Mike on 5/17/2014, 9:22 am

That's pretty amazing for any handgun. What ammo did you use?
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Post by Joe L on 5/17/2014, 9:37 am

Mike, that is Atlanta Arms 115 JHP Match ammo.  I use their reloads exclusively in the 9's.  I don't use the all new ammo often, but I will use it on these 100 yard experiments.  I think the best group before this one was 4-1/4".  I had a couple of 9" plates with all hits on the plate before this one, but the wind was either very constant or cancelled out my hold errors during this 5 shot sequence. 

With a 25 yard zero, the drop was estimated at 8" and that is just what this group was.  There is an aim point card above the plate and just off to the right with the drop and average wind hold built in.  I need to use about a 4" square card for the hold point with the 3 moa red dot.  I had one that was a little too small when I shot this group, the dot covered the card.  Not that I can expect to do any better. 

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Post by BE Mike on 5/17/2014, 10:55 am

AA is top of the line stuff. I got very good results with it out of my Beretta. I also get good results with my own loads using a Hornady 115 gr. FMJRN and Alliant Power Pistol powder.
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Post by Joe L on 5/23/2014, 3:06 pm

I had a perfect day, so I decided to try this gun at 200 yards, just for kicks.  I'd say the gun is absolutely good to go, accuracy wise.




This is fun.  This is not easy.

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Post by james r chapman on 5/23/2014, 4:34 pm

but, can it duplicate Elmer's 600 yd shot?
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Post by Joe L on 5/23/2014, 4:49 pm

Nope!  I'm quitting while I'm good, never to shoot a pistol at 200 or more yards again.  The gun is good, shooter needs work. 

The secret for me is a calm day. 

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Post by Rob Kovach on 5/23/2014, 7:54 pm

That's awesome!!
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Post by BE Mike on 5/24/2014, 9:29 am

Great gun and shooting. That scenery looks very nice, as well.
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Post by Joe L on 5/24/2014, 11:09 am

Thanks, Mike.  I'm back to "normal" bullseye practice this morning.  1200 match simulation, 600 rimfire, 600 center using this gun.  Went well.  Will shoot rifles on Sunday and pistols again on Monday. 

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Tested my CZ P-09 9mm centerfire pistol at 100 yards on Thursday, And at 200 today

Post by Pat Nemes on 6/17/2014, 7:19 am

What dot sight are you using and how have you attached it to the gun?

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Post by Joe L on 6/17/2014, 10:10 am

Pat--Burris Fast Fire III on a Slaughter two-piece dovetail mount.  I have a Springer Precision single piece mount also, but haven't installed it yet.

I may eventually cut the slide for the red dot, but, so far, I don't see any need to do so.  Sight and Slaughter mount has been perfect for several thousand rounds. 

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Post by Pat Nemes on 6/17/2014, 1:54 pm

Thanks. I'm interested in long range pistol shooting. I see it as a challenge. Based upon your experience with the  P-09 it looks to be capable of performing at the longer ranges.

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Post by Joe L on 6/18/2014, 8:04 pm

Pat--A little background.  I have a CZ-75B in 9mm that I use for a host frame for a Kadet 22 conversion.  The CZ Kadet is an excellent all steel 22 with metal magazines.  The frame is full of CGW parts and has a single action only trigger with about a 2 lb pull.  I have about 28k rounds through that gun and it was my favorite 22 until I got the Ruger 22/45.  I love the CZs.  A friend won a P-09 in a raffle but couldn't warm up to the polymer frame.  He said "it's a shooter, but I can't stand the feel or the sound of the gun".  He put 50 rounds through it and sold it to me.  I didn't much like it at first except for the grip feel and low bore axis.  Then I shot it.  Excellent results with the stock gun.  Then I took it apart.  Very simple, unlike the CZ-75B.  Then I bought some CGW parts and installed them, improved a good stock trigger.  Then I shot it at 100 yards not once, but like 6 times, all with good results.  The gun became my bullseye match gun.  Then I put on the Burris Fast Fire III. 

Next, I ordered another one and duplicated the CGW parts except I kept the open sights. That one is my IDPA gun and it, too, is a shooter. 

I'm still not completely warmed up to polymer guns in general, but this CZ is a really, really, good one.  And the price is right.  The P-07 is a shorter barrel version, otherwise, very similar. 

I use Glock 17 flat wound recoil springs in the P-09, by the way.  I've put 6k rounds through my first P-09 in 6 months.  I haven't shot any of my SIGs hardly at all since getting the two P-09s, including an X-5 and a stainless P-226. 

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Tested my CZ P-09 9mm centerfire pistol at 100 yards on Thursday, And at 200 today

Post by Pat Nemes on 6/19/2014, 8:26 am

Joe, thanks for the additional info. I'm looking forward to getting one in the near furure. I've been doing the long range shooting with revolvers (sse my posts on S&W 686 accuracy). Since I also shoot bullseye I'm thinking the CZ would fill the gap for the centerfire matches.

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Tested my CZ P-09 9mm centerfire pistol at 100 yards on Thursday, And at 200 today

Post by Pat Nemes on 6/23/2014, 6:55 pm

Found a CZ P-09 today and bought it. Had to buy a factory box of ammo as the local gun shop didn't have any 9 MM bullets in stock. I have 200 cast lead bullets on order and will also order a box of jacketed bullets.

What weight bullets have been found to shoot best in the 9MM? I've also heard that cast bullets don't do well in that calibre. Any thruth to that?

My intention is to shoot the center fire NMC with it at both 50 and 25 yds.

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Post by Rob Kovach on 6/23/2014, 7:12 pm

115gr JHPs are good for the long line for the 9mm.
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Post by Joe L on 6/23/2014, 8:28 pm

Rob Kovach wrote:115gr JHPs are good for the long line for the 9mm.
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Post by Joe L on 6/30/2014, 3:05 pm

I shot the plastic 9mm CZ P-09 in a local club match again last Saturday.  Winds were terrible, so I couldn't tell the difference between this gun and a custom 1911 anyway, but I shot it OK, especially in rapid fire.  I'm thinking a heavier gun would have been an advantage, but not sure.  Another good day with the CZ, dang it.  I'll have to keep shooting it, I guess. 

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