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Post by Virgil Kane on Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:46 am

I have been playing with some Magnus #801 Button Nose 185 grain that are an improved H&G 130 according to the Magnus web site.

I have been very impressed with the accuracy that I'm getting with this bullet over 4.0 of BE.

Except for the very short OAL because of the button nose  and not cutting clean holes in the target these bullets are shooting great in both my Clark Long Slide and the BE gun I built with Kart barrel.

Anybody else using these 801's ?


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Re: Magnus #801

Post by STEVE SAMELAK on Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:49 am

No clean holes??  In confusion there is profit!  Just kidding.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by Rob Kovach on Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:39 am

Reed Van Ness--a Wisconsin Master shooter uses those to great effect.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by DavidR on Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:41 am

They don't cut as clean as a wadcutter because the bullet is a copy of the Remington 185 fmj match except in lead, it cuts a hole like a FMJ so always have a overlay with you so you don't loose any points. Terry the owner of magnus had this mold made and he shoots them at the short line in every match. Terry is a high master and a 2650+ shooter so that should be a good endorsement in itself. I have some im going to be trying myself soon.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by Virgil Kane on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:38 pm

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:No clean holes??  In confusion there is profit!  Just kidding.


Not when you score my targets at Midlothian Steve.  lol!

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by beeser on Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:24 pm

Did my best today (2.5" group of 5 shots at 25 yds.) with what seems to be an equivalent to the Magnus #801.  See Missouri Bullet link below.
http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=123&category=5&secondary=13&keywords=
The only problem was the lube and/or coating was so thick that I had to wipe the tip of all completed cartridges with a paper towel.  It would gum up the case gage otherwise.  Even then the blue lube was splattered all over the target.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by DavidR on Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:52 pm

Beeser, glad to have you back! Good shooting! That's a good bullet but a little different from the 801, those will probably cut clean holes as for lube, its better to have too much than too little, I hold a rag and a check gauge and wipe each loaded round and drop ii in the gauge before it goes in my ammo case. then you have no worrys about them all going down range.  here is the 801.
http://magnusbullets.com/store/page8.html


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Re: Magnus #801

Post by beeser on Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:10 pm

I'm confused, the Missouri Button .45 ACP (#452185B) and Magnus #801 look almost identical comparing the actual Missouri bullet with the Magnus picture.  The only difference might be a slightly more rounded tip on the Magnus.  I don't know what you're trying to show with the two pictures.

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Post by DavidR on Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:13 pm

I took the two pics down, one was the Remington 185 fmj the 801 was molded from. the bullets you have are not very different but a little, your will probably cut cleaner holes being it has a more pronounced shoulder.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by beeser on Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:25 pm

DavidR wrote:......your will probably cut cleaner holes being it has a more pronounced shoulder.
Indeed it does cut a clean hole, almost as good as my S&W 52.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by gulliver62 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:05 am

I just bought 2000 of these as one of my guns just doesn't like the long nose 185's I use since it was rebuilt.  The gun loves the factory Federal 185, my wallet doesn't.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by hamdenman on Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:54 pm

What OAL is everyone loading these to? I have been using a Federal 185 gold as a template. Those will feed, but my let 801 and Missouri buttons will not feed. I loaded as short as 1.12 and out to 1.17 and have the same problem. The gun will foe almost into battery, except about 1/8 of an inch. I can put my thumbs on the back of the slide and force it into battery. It will go into battery from slide lock. It will shoot magnus 811's flawlessly. What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by DavidR on Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:11 am

Sounds like a crimp issue or a too weak recoil spring, the recoil spring should have a good forward thrust. I load ALL lead bullets the same, .032-.035 of lead above the case edge, crimp to .468-.469, no failure's to feed in any of my guns.

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Post by hamdenman on Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:16 pm

I checked the crimp and its .469, same as the federal. OAL is the same. In regards to the spring, it works flawlessly with the magnus 811's with the same 4.0-4.1 charge of bullseye and crimp. Longer OAL (1.25), but no problem going into battery.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by DavidR on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:41 pm

Well if you cant get them to feed and cycle 100% I wouldn't shoot them, there is really no advantage to them over a hg68 style 185, both are extremely accurate.

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Re: Magnus #801

Post by hamdenman on Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:46 pm

I'm kicking myself for not taking some of those loads to show the guys a Rock River at Camp Perry. I won't forget next year! Oh well, I love the hg68 style. It is very accurate!

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