Taurus revolvers may be sleepers.

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Taurus revolvers may be sleepers.

Post by inthebeech on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:18 pm

My wife bought me a book on revolvers written and published somewhere in Europe . 
Included in the book were some machine rest test results.  Interesting that the Taurus 669 and 689 were right there with the Python and a couple millimeters behind the Korth, producing 25 meter groups of about 25-30 mm.  Not bad for a revolver currently stickered at under $400 in my local GS.  I don't know anything about the brand and already have my 14-2 but otherwise I might poke around and see who is getting tight groups with one. The K-38 was not reviewed but the 586 was no slouch, though not as accurate as the Taurus.  The 627 was not impressive and all large frame 44's, regardless of cost, we're 10-20 mm behind all the 38 and 357's.

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Post by james r chapman on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:57 pm

Accuracy from a ransom often doesn't translate in real world competition. Remember, 8 lb rough triggers, sticky cylinders, bad sights..etc

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Post by rfmiller on Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:04 am

A friend of mine bought a Taurus 1911 for practical pistol competition.  The action wasn't working smoothly so he sent it back for factory repair.  It came back worse than before, absolutely awful trigger.  So he sent it back again.  They returned it as it was with a note that it was "within specifications."  My friend sold the gun and bought a SIG.

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Post by Rob Kovach on Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:53 am

I guess you can't expect the factory to do a competition quality action job.

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Post by rfmiller on Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:55 pm

No, I wouldn't expect that, but I thought the result was unacceptable

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:25 pm

I still say that within limits*, a good or better shooter can do just fine with a lousy trigger. Wobble area + squeeze, ya know.

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*Having spent an interesting time with an H&K VP-70z, the limit is generally however HEAVY the individual can go before muscle tremors start.
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IME (I'm merely a good shooter, not an excellent one), it's just easier and nicer with a decent trigger.

But how do the Taurus revolvers SHOOT, and in group size and absence/presence of flyers? 

I don't trust anyone to work on my triggers. Personally seen too many revolvers whose owners bragged about so-and-so's "custom target" trigger job which included a hammer tension too light for accurate ignition, sometimes too light for merely reliable ignition.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:41 pm

GrumpyOldMan wrote:I still say that within limits*, a good or better shooter can do just fine with a lousy trigger. Wobble area + squeeze, ya know.
But how do the Taurus revolvers SHOOT, and in group size and absence/presence of flyers?
I don't trust anyone to work on my triggers.
Just a couple of points of view, as I see them..
Working on triggers for most High Masters will test a gunsmith's  skill level quite quickly. They settle for nothing less than absolute perfection..not all trigger fingers are created equal... I am positive of that..
I have refused to work on any Taurus for quite a few years. Perhaps the quality has greatly improved since I last saw one..
Getting super tight groups from any factory 1-18 twist barrel is not going to happen..adequate  groups, yes, but never great. 
Revolvers triggers actually  pose a greater challenge and require more machining, tools and skill,  than most 1911s when done correctly, and require considerable time. There is an old saying among revolver smiths that, " The gun revolves around the cylinder."  Meaning ALL things are related to the cylinder... Even the trigger pull.
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Post by james r chapman on Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:36 pm

Yepper....

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Post by kc.crawford.7 on Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:08 am

Jerry, you mean that cylinder timing has something to do with the trigger?  :-)

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:07 am

kc.crawford.7 wrote:Jerry, you mean that cylinder timing has something to do with the trigger?  :-)

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Post by kwixdraw on Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:53 pm

That would certainly be true of the double action pull.

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