Recoil Jerkie-itis Drills/Recommendations?

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Recoil Jerkie-itis Drills/Recommendations?

Post by GrumpyOldMan on Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 pm

First topic message reminder :

Beeser echoed one of my frustrations in this thread (http://www.bullseyeforum.net/t3276-road-to-unfrustration-getting-rid-of-anticipation) which appears to have died.

My punching the gun in anticipation of recoil does appear to be related to the level of recoil. Never happens any more with the .22 and is pretty rare with the light .38s.  The mental part of the game plus the crisp revolver trigger makes it a bit easier for me--old-school hammer cocking occupies my brain so much that the revolver seems to go off by itself as soon as the dot settles in the black. Just need more time with that one to reduce the wobble...dot dances all over the place, much worse than with the .45.

With the .45, I sometimes twitch a flinch during the trigger squeeze, which is not really a problem SF but in TF most of the time and especially in RF can lead to Chicken Finger as I try to avoid the flinch by squeezing too slowly for the circumstances.

I can't do ball and dummy myself because I know when it's a dummy. The exception is a random full-size dummy I blindly load into the magazine.

I'm just wondering what other drills are out there to un-learn the flinch. The .45 trigger is almost a roll but really is just a little creep with a bit harder just before the release. the .22 is crisp and really light, and the revolver is also crisp and not quite as light. But since I want to keep the .45 legal for CMP stuff someday I'm stuck with that 4.5 or so pound pull, which my brain just doesn't seem to get along with.

So, how many "rounds" dry-fire, how many dummies in a magazine, and how to work all this in with the 1-shot and 2-shot drills for TF & RF?  I have a tendency to take way too long for the first shot anyway...

I have hung around over at the Brian Enos site off and on over the years, and it seems that their approach for that big A-Zone is to do targetless magazine dumps to train the brain that it's just trigger and bounce the gun back into the NPA position. Seems like excessively ammo-intensive, and NOT suitable for my TF and RF shot process.  I stopped almost all of the SF flinch by mentally "welcoming" the recoil pulse and thinking follow-through with the trigger back...

Is there some secret like singing Patsy Cline songs in my head to establish the shot cadence and keep my mind off of the trigger????

It sucks to drop 3 points on the first 5 rounds, then throw a pair of 7s and a pair of 8s on the next string!

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Re: Recoil Jerkie-itis Drills/Recommendations?

Post by GrumpyOldMan on Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:46 pm

Will try some of these tips, as well as more dry fire.

Went back to the .22 and after a horrible SF which included a squib that ricochet'd up to the 6-ring (!), AND  12 clicks of windage after the first 5 rounds of TF, I shot a 94-1X RF with all in the black.  Interesting. And encouraging, as that is closer to what I was doing when I was 17 and spending Sunday mornings (EARLY) with my Dad. Lifetime high on anything ever was a 98, don' remember the Xs, with the .22 RF.

Pretty sure it's recoil and not noise. Anyone have a suppressed .45 for me to try that out on???

But for the next few weeks I'll dry fire the .45 and shoot only the .22.

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Re: Recoil Jerkie-itis Drills/Recommendations?

Post by nmbuzz on Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:56 pm

The wind dropped below 20mph and the temps climbed above 45 today in northern NM. God's Country!
  Took advantage by shooting on the 'Willow Range" at my house. 25yd with my S&W 17-2 revolver  !Open iron!   It had been a couple weeks  or more since shooting.  IT WENT WELL!
95s to 98s slowfire on a 25yd timed and rapid target.  
Tried a new (to me) drill!!   Russian rullette!!   3 live rounds and 3 spent rounds in the cylinder!  Every other round!  Spin it then close then shoot!  If you are like me the hammer falling on a spent round creates a spastic follow thru that has to resemble Charles Barkley"s golf swing!!   Laugh out loud ugly!!  After each shot spin the cylinder..live or spent....after 2 live rounds going off reload. 30 minutes and 4-5 evolutions later I improved a bit!  Seemed like GREAT practice and you REALLY save on ammo!!  NOTE TO SELF   try to mitigate the ugly followthru!!   NMBUZZ

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