Red Dot on the Slide

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Red Dot on the Slide

Post by larvatus on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:04 pm

Please report your experience with slide-mounted red dot sights. I am particularly interested in shock resistance and maintenance of the point of aim.

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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by DavidR on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:37 pm

Slide mounted dots drop the dot lower and closer to the bore line than most frame mounts, as to advantages of one over the other its a toss up, slide mount will require a more powerful load and lighter recoil springs than a frame mounted gun. Both work well and maintain zero if you use a quality dot like ultradot or aimpoint. A slide mount will absorb some of the recoil, but a much lighter load can be used with a frame mount so recoil is about the same.

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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by gitkrunk on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:15 pm

Check out what kc Crawford has done with slide mount. Once I get to the point of a dot he will be the phone I contact

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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by Rob Kovach on Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:25 pm

Larvatus,

I've been using this scope base http://www.marvelcustomguns.com/1911_old_bo-mar.htm
under a 1" Ultradot with the factory rings on my Springfield Loaded Target 1911. Because of the target sight cuts, there are only 3 screws to attach the rib to the slide.  I don't use loc-tite on the base screws or the rings and shot thousands of rounds without losing zero.  The ultradot has a lifetime warranty, but I've never needed the warranty.  The extra weight slows the slide down and makes the recoil feel more like a S&W model 52 recoil.

I milled the mount out so I could mount the rail over my iron sights without moving my irons.  The fit of this rail and the amount of contact area makes it so I can unbolt the scope and rail, change the recoil springs, shoot a match with Iron sights, and bolt the scope and rail back on and the zero has never been more than a click or 2 off after bolting it back on.


I prefer the slide mount over frame mount.  I like the softer/slower recoil feeling better than with a frame mount.

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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by knightimac on Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:03 am

Rarely had any issues losing zero with slide mounted red dot on a 45.  I have a basic ultradot on both my .22 and 45.  Even though I've successfully used millets and simmons, I do think the utltradot's claim as having less aiming error is true since I've been using them for awhile now.

Good rings on your red dot are also helpful.  Ware Rings are espeically good.  I use blue loctite on weaver rail screws and dot screws.  My rail contacts the rear sight and is slotted around the front sight for an extra secure mount.

I've had dot come loose only one time during since April 2014 after shooting a weekly outdoor league of 2 NMCs, practice by myself once per week and 4 2700s and now indoor league of 2 NMCs per week. I got over zealous with cleaning using hoppes slopping it all over.


With practice and a good grip on the gun, the 45 with slide mounted dot seems to come right back on target for me.  YMMV.

I do find that I need a little more powder to make my springfield run well with dot on slide.  4.2 bullseye with 200 gr swc with standard 16# spring.  Of course you can load lighter if you change out stock spring.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by knightimac on Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:54 pm


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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by knightimac on Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:56 pm



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Re: Red Dot on the Slide

Post by Joe L on Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:47 pm

I have two Burris Fast Fires, one on a P-09 CZ 9mm slide using a Slaughter Precision mount and another on a new CZ-97 that came off of a 22.  I put 6k rounds through the P-09 gun with the Burris mounted on the slide in 2014 with no issues whatsoever and no zero shift.  I put the one from the 22 on the 97 a couple of weeks ago, only 500 rounds so far, but it is fine.  I put a new Ultradot HD on the 22 and it is small enough that it COULD be mounted in a dovetail mount in place of the Burris FF III, but no need to do so right now as I like the Burris just fine. 

 

I don't expect to have any problems with the .45 and red dot.

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