9mm Accuracy & Velocity

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9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by beeser on Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:42 pm

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Everything that I've read on this forum indicates that 9mm has to be pushed fast to be accurate.  Why is this when .45 ACP and .38 Special seem to perform fine at much lower velocities?    This doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:58 pm

Axehandle wrote:Barrel in a barrel fixture or in a gun?
Les Baer Frame and slide..

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by Axehandle on Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:18 pm

Send me that gun!   Smile

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:22 pm

Axehandle wrote:Send me that gun!   Smile
2004 vintage and loooong gone..PPC gun.. I have not heard from the owner in quite some time, and not sure he is still shooting.

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Post by Axehandle on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:11 pm

Execute a recall! Smile

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Post by james r chapman on Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:24 pm

Safe queens like that need to be taken to a dance once in awhile.

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by GrumpyOldMan on Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:53 pm

Mr. Keefer:

Am I wrong to believe that outstanding 25-shot group at 50 yards, Ransom Rest, is out of a 1911 platform???

I don't believe I have even seen a SIG P210 group that good, and those are almost always 5 rounds at 25 meters...

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by DavidR on Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:41 pm

It said, 1911 with kart 1/16 barrel but I believe it was a 38 super, not a 9mm

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:17 pm

GrumpyOldMan wrote:Mr. Keefer:

Am I wrong to believe that outstanding 25-shot group at 50 yards, Ransom Rest, is out of a 1911 platform???

I don't believe I have even seen a SIG P210 group that good, and those are almost always 5 rounds at 25 meters...

9mm...
1911 Les Baer Frame and Slide
David Sams is probably the "King" of 9mm and has many such and better groups on his wall..

The reason I shot 25 rounds, is the 50 yard PPC stage is 24 shots.4 magazines of 6 rounds each..

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by JIMPGOV on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:34 pm


HERE'S MY ROCK RIVER ARMS 6" PPC AUTO.LEFT HAND TARGET 10RDS, RIGHT HAND TARGET 24RDS. LIKE JERRY SAID "WE" PPC SHOOTERS SHOOT 24RDS AT 50YDS TWICE IN A 1500 SO IT'S IMPORTANT. HORNADY 115GR XTP.

 I CAN'T BLOW UP THE PIC ABOVE BUT THIS IS THE NATIONAL MATCH 60 RD PPC COURSE.
RIGHT HAND TARGET WAS A CLEAN 300 AT THE SHORT LINE.
LEFT HAND TARGET WAS A 298 OUT OF 300. 24 SHOTS AT 50 YDS IN 4 DIFFERENT POSITIONS IN 2MIN AND 45 SEC. & 6 RDS IN 12 SEC AT 25YDS FROM THE HOLSTERED POSITION
SCORE 598-36X
BY THE WAY IT WAS A 2 MAN TEAM MATCH THAT MY PARTNER AND I WON.
9MM WILL SHOOT.


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Post by james r chapman on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:36 pm

It seems the 6" is the better shooting option? 1-32 twist?

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by JIMPGOV on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:46 pm

ACTUALLY MY 5" 9MM PPC DISTINGUISHED AUTO IS TIGHTER AT 50YDS. BUT I SHOOT THE LONGER SIGHT GUN BETTER AT 50YDS.
YES 1-32 TWIST.
BUT MY PPC SERVICE 9MM HAS A KART 9MM 1-16" TWIST BARREL AND SHOOTS THE SAME AT 50YDS. JUST HAVE TO USE THE 147GR BULLET WITH THAT TWIST . I'VE FOUND. JIMP

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Re: 9mm Accuracy & Velocity

Post by james r chapman on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:54 pm

Thank Jim, that's the route I'm trying.
Care to share your 147 load?
Never mind, found it...

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