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New type of scope mount - includes iron sights?

Post by beeser on 2/23/2015, 9:45 am

While gathering ideas for a scope mount for one of my Range Officers I came across this Rock River Arms scope mount that includes an adjustable rear sight and Partridge front sight.  Take the scope off and you're good to go with iron sights.  Seems to be a good idea and unique to anything else I've seen.  What do you all think?

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=519

Also, SA apparently now offers a Bullseye Wadcutter version of their 1911.  The scope mount used is from RRA although not the one mentioned above.

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Post by Rob Kovach on 2/23/2015, 9:58 am

I don't like the extra weight. That rail is quite heavy.
I used the aluminum marvel custom guns rail and cut the rail so my iron sights would not be disturbed. Simply unborn the rail and your backup irons are ready to go.
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Post by beeser on 2/23/2015, 10:27 am

Rob Kovach wrote:I don't like the extra weight. That rail is quite heavy.
I used the aluminum marvel custom guns rail and cut the rail so my iron sights would not be disturbed.   Simply unborn the rail and your backup irons are ready to go.
Drats!  Is it because of the sights or is the mount made out of something other than aluminum?

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Post by Rob Kovach on 2/23/2015, 10:34 am

I think they are made out of steel.
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Post by DavidR on 2/23/2015, 3:11 pm

Why would you want it? It is not cmp legal, but rob's way would be, so the advantage of going from irons to a dot or back serves no real purpose. The dot going out is why you always have a back up gun for important matches.

SA custom shop has had a bullseye gun for several years, the price runs 2600.00 when ive seen them offered.
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Post by sixftunda on 2/23/2015, 3:39 pm

David is right, it is not CMP legal.  If you really want a Rock River Bullseye rib, send it to KC Crawford.  He will mill material out of the bottom of it to lighten it up.
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Post by beeser on 2/23/2015, 3:41 pm

My apologies.  I searched this topic before posting but apparently didn't dig deep enough as it has apparently been discussed here before at length.  And you're absolutely correct DavidR.  I have back up 1911s that would negate any need for a scope mount with integrated sights.  Back to the drawing board.

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Post by DavidR on 2/23/2015, 4:17 pm

Now you could also use a grip mount for a dot on a stock RO and use it for wad or cmp, just remove it and add a stock grip panel and your ready for a cmp match. I have a friend that does well with one although some here put down grip mounts.
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Post by Rob Kovach on 2/23/2015, 5:10 pm

As long as the grip mount has a positive interface on the grip bushings, they will hold zero.
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Post by james r chapman on 2/23/2015, 5:47 pm

the grip mounts I'm familiar with would require a takedown of the gun to remove/install...
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Post by Rob Kovach on 2/23/2015, 7:35 pm

Using the "Aimtech" comes with 2 "extra mounting points" that replaces pins through the frame.
Throw those away!!  If you make sure the mount indexes on the grip bushings they are 100% unnecessary.

http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/rings-mounts-bases/handgun-bases/1911-auto-grip-scope-mount-prod63.aspx
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Post by 79fordext on 2/23/2015, 10:51 pm

I just mounted the Aimtech APM 7 on my range officer this weekend and shot it tonight. It is not as easy to shoot as a slide mounted dot. It definitely required some adjusting to get used to. I also had to contour the edges of the grip for it to fit my hand.  It is easy to install and remove. I would however recommend getting a new Mainspring pin retainer and grinding the tip off so that it does not hit the screw for the mainspring. It damaged the threads a little on mine and increased the trigger pull noticeably. I ended up using the stock mainspring pin until I get a new retainer. I do believe it will stay very clos to zeroed if you remove it and reinstall. Last drawback to this mount, you can't remove the slide the rear sight hits the mount.
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