.45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

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.45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

Post by DonBrummer on Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:00 pm

We can spin this around and ask what brand do you dislike, and why?

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Post by jmdavis on Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:23 pm

My recipes call for starline at the long line.

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Post by farmboy on Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:23 pm

I like Starline

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Post by Astroimage2002 on Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:34 pm

Winchester, R&P both out shoot me... Have 1k of StarLine to "play" with... But I won't be wasting it any time soon.

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Post by Astroimage2002 on Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:36 pm

OH! I seem to use Winchester more than any other brass. No good reason other than it "pulls" consistently when I reload them... So does R&P...

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Post by rreid on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:37 am

I like WCC and Federal because Winchester primers seem to seat more consistently with them.

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Post by BE Mike on Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:24 am

Ed Masaki did a lot of machine rest testing. He used brass with mixed headstamps. He got great groups. He even used brass with cracks and they shot into the group.

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Post by DavidR on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:48 am

watch Winchester, the white box stuff has larger flash holes, no big deal unless you mix it with older cases with the small flash holes it will shoot to different points at 50 yds

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Post by knightimac on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:53 am

I use Remington 45 brass mainly but have a mix.  I have around 900 Remington from 1998 that I still use today.

Remington still has large primer pockets in their loaded ammo unlike some competitors (Federal and Winchester) who have changed over to small pocket primers.

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Post by Skid on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:50 pm

I've been using Starline for years

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Post by Russ OR on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:59 pm

Federal, Winchester, Remington  -- -- -difference to me is:
Remington seems to be slightly thinner walled - sizes easier- and if some of your rounds are too tight in the finished round gauge or don't chamber easily the Remington brass helps noticeably. - Might not hold the bullet as securely??-but I've had no problems.  -

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Post by paw080 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:05 pm

Hi, I use all kinds of brass; also due to Ed Masaki's testing....Cool

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Post by DavidR on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:12 pm

BE Mike wrote:Ed Masaki did a lot of machine rest testing. He used brass with mixed headstamps. He got great groups. He even used brass with cracks and they shot into the group.

his testing was pre lead free primers which requires a larger flash hole, so only use his info if your brass is over 10 years old.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:32 pm

OK.. I'll give up the Starline secret...It works better at 50 yards because it's longer.... study

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Post by jmdavis on Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:43 pm

Jerry Keefer wrote:OK.. I'll give  up the Starline secret...It works better at 50 yards  because it's longer.... study


I heard that from a "local guy" one time. Smile

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Re: .45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

Post by Jack H on Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:04 pm

There has been a long standing guru type claim that new Starline was the top dog for fifty yards.  Once fired, Starline became an also ran.  I bet this claim can only be substantiated in a barrel tester or Ransom. 
If that claim is actually true, what happens to new brass after the first firing?  It seems just the opposite of rifle fire forming and neck sizing. 

Either way, I don't shoot THAT good.
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Post by Jerry Keefer on Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:52 am

I'll stir this pot up again.. Been too busy with that 52 barrel..Smile
The late Al Bacon and I did some testing also.. At the NRA Show in Pittsburgh, PA 2005, we purchased a batch of  Starline 460 Rowland brass.  Al's chambers were cut to what was considered optimum at that time  of .903
There is no brass manufactured that long.. Most of the " Big Three" brass is in the low .880s.  A fixture was made to reduce the  460 to .900. About 100 cases were made at first. Loaded and tested against various  other lengths.. The minimum headspaced Rowland brass consistently shot better groups. I have always been an advocate  of minimum headspace, but this  reenforced it to an obsession.  I have spent considerable time measuring brass and testing.. Starline is the best...


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Re: .45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

Post by rich.tullo on Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:35 pm

I like remington a lot but the price new is crazy. I benched some loads today and remington reloaded like 5 or 6 times out shot the new star line.  

I know people hate small primers but Blazer brass is excellent. 

Federal is excellent. 

Starline is good and available 

Winchester is supposed to last longer but I had just as many cracked cases with Winchester as Remington.

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Re: .45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

Post by Rich/WIS on Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:17 pm

What ever brand other shooters leave on the range.

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Re: .45 ACP brass, what brand do you like and why?

Post by Guest on Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:36 pm

Starline

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Post by dronning on Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:37 pm

Federal
I was given 5,000 once fired deprimed Federal cases with some other stuff I bought. So far I've been through them 1 1/2 times no issues and seem accurate. I had bought some Starline brass before I got the "motherload" but I haven't used any yet, maybe I'll start loading them for the long line.

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Post by s1120 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:46 am

What is the best new factory loaded brass?  I have heard about the Fed being SPP now. I have a stash of old brass, but needing some more, and was just going to buy some factory loads to practice with, and then use the brass. Is the Win WWB any good brass? Who else uses SPP, and not LPP?

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Post by LenV on Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:18 pm

If I pick up any brass with SPP (small primer pocket) I used to throw them away in disgust. You can really mess up if you mix them up. Now I take any SPP I come across and throw it in the 400 Corbon tray. The Corbon uses small rifle primers. At least I found a use for them. I wouldn't have any problem using them for the 45 IF that was all I had.

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Post by 243winxb on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:10 am

I hate short brass (trim length)  Not good for accuracy.  45acp brass  never seems to need trimming.

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Post by SSgtG on Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:07 pm

I agree with Ed that brass is probably the least important part if the accuracy equation in a .45. Since it headspaces on the case neck, case length is fairly unimportant. The bullet is far more important. My cases are all mixed, many times fired, some from '65, '84 and lots unknown. They all shoot to the same group. Spend the time used on brass work on dry firing and you will be many points ahead.

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