Bullseye oil is the huckleberry. Scheutzenfest anyone?

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Bullseye oil is the huckleberry. Scheutzenfest anyone?

Post by beeser on Sat May 16, 2015 10:24 am

"Alcohol judiciously consumed will improve the marksmanship of about nine out of ten gunners, I can testify from observation of pistol meets."

Colonel Charles Askins, “Are Pistol Champs Alcoholics?”, Guns, January 1956, pp. 24-26, 63-64
http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1956issues/G0156.pdf

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Post by Rob Kovach on Sun May 17, 2015 2:28 am

Alcohol help eliminate over-trying and other shot process mistakes. Now we understand shot process so we can perform better sober.

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Post by Vociferous on Sun May 17, 2015 6:50 am

Rob Kovach wrote:Alcohol help eliminate over-trying and other shot process mistakes. Now we understand shot process so we can perform better sober.

Speak for yourself.

After the match, of course.

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Post by LenV on Sun May 17, 2015 9:54 am

Don't take my word for this. Check it out for yourself. If you go to the Jack Daniels distillery you can purchase a barrel of Jack for around 5k. If you buy a barrel you get a star on the wall. If you buy more than 1 you get a plaque with your name on it and that gets added to every purchase. The plaque on the wall with the most purchases is the AMU. Hmmm

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Tue May 19, 2015 1:31 am

Define "judiciously".

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Tue May 19, 2015 1:39 am

I wish to also add that I recall a rather sytematic NRA case study involving at least three smallbore shooters of differing skill levels, and an indoor range with variable lighting capabilities.

The thresholds and initial degrees of performance degradation varied among the individuals, but they *did* successfully identify the minimal amount of lumens or whatever on target that were needed to get decent results for just about anyone.

A few years later, I noticed on the indoor range that *I* found sight focus to be much easier if I kept the lights over the firing point on full blast. Don't know if anyone does this any more, but it seemed all the rage back then to have a dimmer at every shooting stall on indoor ranges. Fine for simulating alleyway defense scenarios, but no good for precision work IME.

All this is to make the point that I ain't gonna trust any testing of Grandma Fletcher's Group Tightener unless it's done under similar controlled conditions and with shooters of varying skill/accomplishment levels.

And even with booze levels "below the legal limit" for driving, I recommend two Tasers on site just in case performance shortfall + loss of inhibition = the justly maligned "angry outburst".  We cannot tolerate anyone throwing a perfectly good pistol (or rifle even) downrange out of frustration. Think of the bluing!

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Post by r_zerr on Tue May 19, 2015 12:19 pm

I am a native El Pasoan, where Askins was stationed early in his career with the Border Patrol.  I knew people (now passed) who were around Mr./Col. Askins.  Their opinions of his moral character were not very high. Their opinions of his self agrandizement  (SP?) were that he was very goo at it.  One thing he always did, was to get conversations in the gun-stores and the range when his articles came out, and get people laughing.

I have heard the same thing from the folks around Salmon Idaho about Elmer Keith, and a friend who went to school in Tucson with Jack O'Connors son.  

But, it is still fun stuff to read.

-Ron

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Wed May 20, 2015 12:11 pm

Dad was from Idaho, you might say he helped product test the new Model 19 by wearing out the first one he bought. His reports on "Old Elmer" were similar--locals considered him a nut who wore a gun even when he went to the Post Office in Salmon. 

He had a higher opinion of Jeff Cooper, whom I guess I sorta met at a Pasadena BE match (or maybe one of Dad's first PPC ones) when I was about 4 or 5 years old.

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