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Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by kwixdraw on Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:55 pm

Is anyone still shooting these? I bought them years ago and noticed that they seem to be unavailable now. I'm just wondering if they are a good bullet compared to the 185 JHPs.

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Post by Wobbley on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:55 am

I bought some tried them and they didn't shoot much better than the cast bullets I was shooting at the time.  The jhp are way superior,

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Post by Dr.Don on Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:53 am

I've had good results with them but haven't seen them anywhere for a year or two.  Same for the Hornady 185 JSWC (button nose style), which I really like.  Dealers list them as "Temporarily Unavailable", but temporary has been a long time.

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Post by kwixdraw on Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:20 am

4.4 of 700-X sound about right Dr. Don?
                                                     Cliff

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Post by Dr.Don on Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:33 am

I'm not a good reference for 700-X.  I was using 4.3-4.5 of Bullseye.

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Post by C.Perkins on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:40 pm

Dr.Don;

I still have 2600 of those Hornady 185gr JSWC button noses that I use for the short line.
Use the Nosler 185gr JHP for the long line.
4.6gr of BE in both loads.

500 of those are the enclosed style with no lead base showing.

Clarence

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Post by Dr.Don on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:09 pm

Clarence,

You should guard those bullets closely.  Hornady seems infatuated with the HAP bullets.  I'm not sure they will ever make any more of those 185's.

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Post by kwixdraw on Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:27 pm

I used to get Remington full jacketed 185 SWCs like that button nose Hornady and they shot very well. Are they still being made?  Anything similar to them?

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Post by Dr.Don on Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:31 am

The old Remingtons were even better than the Hornadys in my opinion.  I have not seen them for sale in years.  I still have one box of them loaded from long ago.  I save it for testing guns.

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by rich.tullo on Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:28 pm

What ever you do don't get the Berry's looks the same shoots like poooh

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by Jack H on Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:44 pm

Hornady 200 JSWC were super accurate for me.

What does C/T stand for?

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by C.Perkins on Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:16 pm

Hornady combat/target.

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by Wes Lorenz on Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:18 am

kwixdraw wrote:Is anyone still shooting these? I bought them years ago and noticed that they seem to be unavailable now. I'm just wondering if they are a good bullet compared to the 185 JHPs.
I always had good luck with them, exceptional at 50 yards.

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Post by Colt711 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 am

kwixdraw wrote:I used to get Remington full jacketed 185 SWCs like that button nose Hornady and they shot very well. Are they still being made?  Anything similar to them?

Many yrs ago I and another shooter bought 1800 or 2k of these. Used for 50 yd match only. They shot well and the dealer said they were no more avalable to the public then.

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by kwixdraw on Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:22 am

I found the Remington 185s listed at Midway but they were out of stock. I requested notification when they arrived. I guess we will see if it ever happens.

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Post by LenV on Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:59 am

Try the Speer #4473. They are 185gr TMJSWC. They work great and it looks like they are still making them. I picked up 500 a couple of months ago.

Len  (all they had at the time)

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Post by Wes Lorenz on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:36 am

kwixdraw wrote:Is anyone still shooting these? I bought them years ago and noticed that they seem to be unavailable now. I'm just wondering if they are a good bullet compared to the 185 JHPs.
Graf & Sons currently has them in stock.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/6017
I was incorrect about the CT bullets.
I've have excellence 50yd results with the BX style.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/6016

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Post by LenV on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:46 am

I thought he was talking about these bullets.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/716718/hornady-bullets-45-caliber-451-diameter-200-grain-full-metal-jacket-combat-target?cm_vc=wishList

I have them on my wish list.

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by Jack H on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:57 am

Hornady stopped making the good bullet.  It was 200gr JSWC with open lead exposed base.  X ring groups from my 1955 model revolver

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by kwixdraw on Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:49 am

Yes Len, that is the one I am talking about. Some years back a friend of mine had a Colt Series 70 worked over at Kings' Gunworks. They recommended that bullet and 4.4 700-X as the best load for it. It was a very nice shooter but I never got a chance to see if it would do better with another load.

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Post by Wes Lorenz on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:09 pm

Miss read the OP, sorry. The swaged bullets are awesome too.

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Re: Hornady 200 gr C/T bullets

Post by LenV on Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:38 pm

Contacted Speer about the shortage of bullets like the CT in the OP. They make them in 185 or 200. I will post the whole conversation here if I can. Best read from the bottom up.



Len: thanks for the news on the change, hadn't heard that on CMP.  It would appear we may need to up production on bullets like #4473 based on that information.
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Thanks for the response Coy. I have orders in at Midway and Natchez. I just wanted to be sure your still making them. FYI did you know that the CMP has changed their regs for 2015 and all jacketed bullets are being allowed now for CMP matches. We don't have to shoot hardball anymore and lots of shooters are looking for these bullets.

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Leonard: they are made when orders match run quantity, when made the product ships to the oldest order.  The Distributor ships to the Retailer based on his orders.  When and where the product finds its way to a shelf is unknown to us.  The best solutions for getting product is to purchase it on-line or place an order with a Retailer so when the product arrives it has your name on it.

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I am getting very low on #4473. Do you plan on producing this fine bullet again sometime in the future?

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