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Post by DavidR on Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:20 pm

I would like to get a aimpoint, not a micro but a model that is like a 30mm ultradot style, in a 4moa, anybody using one? it would need to be not super heavy for slide mount.

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Post by Jon Eulette on Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:26 pm

AMU is using the 9000 short for their custom Hammerli's, it's a 4 moa dot. It weighs around 7.1-7.4 ounces. That's a little heavy, but they also use on their slide mounted .45's. Right now Brownells has the C3 on sale $80 off. It uses a single ring for mounting. Also a 4 moa dot.
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Post by DavidR on Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:41 pm

thanks Jon I will take a look, I saw a 9000, its huge, never seen a short version. I scored Jim Henderson last year and asked him why the amu went to aimpoint and his answer was priceless. Literally they were priceless . He said because they give them to us. lol!  Id say also cause they work!

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Post by SMBeyer on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:41 pm

I have an Aimpoint 9000SC on my Pardini.  It is a little bigger than an UD but it doesn't bother me.

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Post by sixftunda on Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:56 pm

I have a 9000SC 4 moa that I would sell you if you like.

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Post by Froneck on Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:56 pm

Well yes Aimpoint gave the AMU the Micro that was on Henderson's gun but because it worked good the AMU bought more.  They took them off because the only one that worked good was the free one on Henderson's gun. This year they are shooting with Aimpoint 9000 with 2moa dot. Not sure what they did with Henderson's Aimpoint as he is not shooting Bullseye (Precision) As I'm told the scope is longer than the 45 slide so it must be the 9000L it is also heavy, about a pound! Next time I talk with my son I will get better details.
 However with the heavier scope slide mounted it still cycles the gun with the same load from Atlanta Arms they were using on the long line but the short line loads would not so they are using the same load for both.


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Post by DavidR on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:07 am

Henderson is a weight lifter lol! I picked up his gun and almost couldn't lift it, he had lead grips about 3/8'' thick and the big aimpoint, but it was frame mounted.

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Post by Froneck on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:19 am

Yes Henderson's guns were heavy, weight was added where ever possible. Not sure when they switched but most of the AMU guns were frame mounted but they were changed to slide mount. One of the main reasons to change to slide is most of the guys liked the recoil of the slide mount better than the frame. The frame mount was a sharp snap and the slide was a kerrrr chunk. Though I'm sure if Henderson wanted his to remain frame mounted it would have been but he's not shooting Bullseye this year and will probably not go to Perry. Can get more info if wanted.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:34 am

DavidR wrote: it was frame mounted.
Oh No!!! not a frame mount..
David Sams is right..SmileSmileSmile
A 2650 + shooter just requested a pair of frame mounted guns built this winter... Must be contagious..Smile

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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Sams frame mounts are way better than the Weigland style, it looks just like a slide mount, I actually tried to rack my buddies gun with the scope and I thought the gun was seized. 

He was using a Match dot and the scope was just a couple of mm above the slide. 

I just wish I could afford $600 to experiment.

I can use a #12 spring on my Les Baer with a Kodiak mount and a Primary Arms Aim Point micro clone. Good alternative to a $1200 setup to try out the micro dot and the dot is better than the Ultra Dot HD. You do need the totts shades because any micro gets dirty fast.

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Post by Froneck on Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:56 pm

I'm a slide mount fan, My son Adam requested they change his to slide mount (2650+ with both hands) Plus I don't recall ever seeing a frame mount iron or peep sight for the 1911. But that's getting off topic and is a Ford/Chevy debate. Might be a good topic.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:52 pm

rich.tullo wrote:Sams frame mounts are way better than the Weigland style, it looks just like a slide mount, I actually tried to rack my buddies gun with the scope and I thought the gun was seized. 

He was using a Match dot and the scope was just a couple of mm above the slide. 

I just wish I could afford $600 to experiment.

I can use a #12 spring on my Les Baer with a Kodiak mount and a Primary Arms Aim Point micro clone. Good alternative to a $1200 setup to try out the micro dot and the dot is better than the Ultra Dot HD. You do need the totts shades because any micro gets dirty fast.
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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:37 pm

Keefer rail is similar to the Kodiak mount which is what I have great system. The Sam's is what Lange has.

Screw in extension tubes for an aim point? No press fit no drilling tubes?

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:45 pm

Adapters are pressed on, and threaded to accept the extensions.

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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:49 pm

And my Dad shot 2575  2600 with iron sights. But he really liked my Chambers SSG 22lr  on Father's day almost did not get it back.

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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:50 pm

Will that work for Totts Kodiak rail?

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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:59 pm

Or better, are you still fabricating that slide mount set up. If so Crawford is building a wadcutter for me and I like that if the drill pattern is the same as a Clark rail. 

I am testing a primary arms dot 1000 rounds so far so good, aim point is better but I can buy 4 for the price. 

If the primary arms doesn't work out I am perfectly happy with an ultra dot. I have a bunch .

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Post by rich.tullo on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:00 pm

Man you
 Made nice guns those blued?

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:07 pm

rich.tullo wrote:Man you
 Made nice guns those blued?
Yes..I am strictly blued guns.. Old school.☺

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:58 pm

rich.tullo wrote:Will that work for Totts Kodiak rail?
I don't know.. I haven't seen one of Fred's rails..

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Post by DavidR on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:02 am

jerry do you sell the micro shades and adapter rings, or do you know who does?

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Post by rich.tullo on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:43 am

Frett Totts sells shades and they have to be press fit, I used a large wood clamp very carefully and it worked out. 

Depending on how you mount, you may need to drill the shades to allow access for mounting screws, otherwise you have a problem.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:14 pm

rich.tullo wrote:Frett Totts sells shades and they have to be press fit, I used a large wood clamp very carefully and it worked out. 

Depending on how you mount, you may need to drill the shades to allow access for mounting screws, otherwise you have a problem.
.005 press is what I use... It has to be exact..as that is a significant interference.   I lay out the bolt holes to ease assembly. When working out the originals, I felt the that quick replacement, without removal of the base rib had to be addressed,  should a scope ever fail during a major match.. The main bolts extend into and thru the slide.
I do not stock or sell the parts.. I talked with Fred a year or two ago, and he was going to begin the process to make them.. He's on the BE list but probably very busy as Perry approaches.

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Post by Froneck on Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:36 pm

Back to the topic. I was wrong, Jon was correct! I talked to Adam again, they are using the Aimpoint 9000SG and like them very much. The longer length is due to tube extensions. So far they are shooting very good Dave and are well liked by everyone on the AMU team. However the AMU is using the 2moa dot. It is available in 4moa.
 So if your thinking about getting the Aimpoint 9000SG and slide mounting it, it comes recommended by the AMU
 All the AMU guns are slide mount. They tried the frame mount and the shooters preferred slide mount including Henderson. ALL the AMU shooters last year used slide mount and that includes 1st 2nd and 3rd place Perry winners. I just confirmed that with Adam.
 As per Jon I guess Brownells has a sale, they are listed in my catalog (but no dealer discount) for $406 so $326 isn't bad! Only drawback is the weight
 I'll check out the AMU guns at Perry, Might take Adam's guns to the practice range and try them. I might get a 9000SG if I like it. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll talk to the AMU shooters and see what they have to say. Maybe my Condo will have computer connection, didn't think to ask at the time

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Post by gitkrunk on Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:48 pm

Anyone have input on the Aimpoint H-2 ?

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