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Post by jmdavis on 9/17/2015, 7:28 am

Did anyone else get the World Shooting Championships Email from the NRA? Did anyone else wonder why NRA Competitions can send out direst email for that but not the National Bullseye Chamiponship, or the National Highpower a Championship?

Here is the web link from the email.

https://wsc.nra.org


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Post by Ed Hall on 9/17/2015, 7:41 am

Interesting that a Junior shooter is charged more to enter than an Amateur - nearly as much as a Pro.  If I were a Junior, I wouldn't tell them...


Pro Registration: $395

Amateur Registration: $325

Junior Shooter: $375

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Post by SSgtG on 9/17/2015, 9:28 am

It is interesting that stage 2 is called NRA Precision and uses NRA rules but the stage of fire is nothing like the rules or our usual course of fire. Maybe they did that to every discipline but I don't know the others. They could have at least done a National Match course.

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Post by jmdavis on 9/17/2015, 10:12 am

Is there a dedicated website for the National Pistol Championships? How about Highpower Rifle or small bore? Has anyone on this forum ever received direct emails from the NRA about an upcoming match, even the Nationals?

I hope that we will see such things in the future, because it has been shown that it CAN be done using the technology available to Organization which manages our sport. They are doing it right now for this 200 person match.
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Post by Rob Kovach on 9/17/2015, 10:57 am

That's a great point! I received an email reminder about this "World Pistol Championship" match that provided publicity for the sponsors, and for this huge purse that they are offering.

There is no reason that NRA can't secure sponsors, prize purses and publicity like this for bullseye and their other legacy disciplines.

If NRA would do this work with the disciplines that they are supposed to support, it would be better for growth of the sport, and help grow the NRA as a result.
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Post by james r chapman on 9/17/2015, 11:32 am

Agreed!

As we have to shake the weeds and lift up trashcans to find matches now!
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Post by jmdavis on 9/17/2015, 11:37 am

Absolutely, compare the NRA pdf that you have to search out and download to http://www.bullseyematches.com

The only reason I have been able to find Bullseye matches is the CMP competition tracker (which is not without issue :-)) and the link from Tony's Bullseye Blog.
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Post by Ed Hall on 5/12/2016, 9:15 pm

From their Prizes Page:
Side match prize winners are NOT tournament related. Prize winners of side events will be randomly selected from those that participate in the event.


Highlighting by me.  Does this actually say that instead of the best shooter, the winner will be chosen at random Question Smile

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Post by jmdavis on 5/12/2016, 9:34 pm

Sure looks like it.
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Post by Jon Eulette on 5/12/2016, 10:08 pm

I know some shooters that shot the inaugural match. Let's just say not run very good. The staff running the match get to shoot it! The staff walked away with most of the table prizes. I won't shoot it.
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Post by dronning on 5/12/2016, 11:26 pm

Ed Hall wrote:From their Prizes Page:
Side match prize winners are NOT tournament related. Prize winners of side events will be randomly selected from those that participate in the event.


Highlighting by me.  Does this actually say that instead of the best shooter, the winner will be chosen at random Question Smile

Match cash winners 1st $25,000, 2nd $5,000, 3rd $4000.

Sounds like the "side match" are drawings for items on the $100K prize table. - that should bring in some participation if done fair.

I try to attend a local 3 gun "zombie" shoot held annually that has been getting around 1,000 shooters, #1 because it was run exceptionally well (safe) and was a ton of fun but I also believe it had a lot to do with the drawings.  You could be a first time shooter and walk away with a $3k rifle. There are anywhere between 20-25 guns given away plus tons of gear too.

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Post by DirComp on 5/13/2016, 11:29 am

Let me give you some information about this match, since I'm Match Director for it this year.

This match was started 3 years ago by Trijicon.  Industry liked it and jumped onboard.  The NRA was a supporter in the match but did not invest any money and had minimal staff there.  The event was held at the Peacemaker National Training Center in West Virginia.

Last year, Trijicon wanted to go their own way and held a similar event to Rockcastle Shooting Center in Kentucky.  Peacemaker asked us to partner with them to continue the event there.  We managed to find a title sponsor but again, had no monetary investment, but did provide key personnel to help run it.

Now in its third year, the NRA is taking total control of the event.  Industry likes this event and continues to support it.  They provide everything necessary to shoot the event; firearms, ammunition, scopes, etc.  All of these items make up the prize table at the end of the match.

There are 12 Stages to the match.  They involve competing with rifles, pistols, and shotguns.  Each event is bastardized to a certain degree to make it work with the location and time constraints of completing the event.  For example; Precision Pistol shoots slow fire, with an adjusted time and distance.  The Bianchi Falling Plate stage consists only of the last two strings (20 and 25 yards) leaving out 10 and 15 yards, and no drawing from holsters is allowed.

The side events, are nothing more than that, something to do that's different and fun.  You can shoot silenced firearms at Silencerco's bay, you can shoot falling plates of different shapes and distances in Eley's bay, or shoot Cowboy guns at Taylor & Co's bay.  Participants in these events are not generally scored (remember it's only for fun) but are given a theater ticket as evidence of participation.  At the awards banquet, tickets are drawn for a prize or two, usually something nice but small.  However, Silencerco gave away two silencers last year, each with a retail value of about $2,000.  No one gets to the prize table based on side events, only your score in the 12 stages of fire.

There will be three divisions; Open Pro, Stock Pro, Amateur.  Open Pros are allowed to bring their own firearms and ammunition, but compete for cash awards only.  No prize table picks for them.  Stock Pros are required to use all of provided guns and ammunition, as are Amateurs.  We have a definition of what a Pro is on the website.

The staff does get to shoot the match and receive awards, but must enter under the same conditions as all other competitors, Open Pro, Stock Pro, or Amateur.  About half the staff are veteran competitors who help run the event for three days.  In exchange, we waive their entry fee.  It's a way for us to have quality staff and it makes it easier for them to attend.  As an example; two retired Marines from the Pistol Team run the Precision Pistol stage.  So yes, staff does get to shoot but these are competitors who would probably be there and shoot anyway.  They are willing do donate three days of their time though so that you can come shoot too. 

Because we supply everything needed to compete, we have competitors from England and Australia coming because we have made it easy for them.  Some people told me last year that they come just to shoot the events and the various firearms available.  They never had a chance to shoot a long range sniper rifle at targets 800 yards away and they thought it would be fun, as well as the many other events.

The prize table will have about $200,000 worth of gear that the manufacturer's provided.  The prize tables for Stock Pro and Amateur are separate but equal.  Winners are called in order of finish; 1st Stock Pro, 1st Amateur, 2nd Stock Pro, 2nd Amateur, etc.,  Winners are allowed to pick any item from the prize table that they want.

Once again, as I've stated before, industry jumps on events like this because they are exciting.  They don't view Precision Pistol the same way.  It is very hard to find sponsors willing to give you a single firearm for Precision Pistol but the same manufacturer might give 10 to this event.  It's not that the NRA staff doesn't try, there simply is a lack of interest in the manufacturing community.

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Post by jmdavis on 5/13/2016, 11:53 am

Denis, 

Why have we never seen an email, like the one that I originally referenced sent out with regard to Precision Pistol or Highpower? I don't much care about the prizes because I'm not shooting for prizes. But this match proves to me that the NRA could just as easily send out an email advertising Camp Perry, or a general one for sectionals, or whatever. 

But speaking of prizes each year at the Creedmoor Cup there seems to be prizes for the raffle and drawing. I won a barrel last year, and I know Juniors who have won carts, or cases or a Girauld Trimmer. This year the top expert was awarded a .22 upper, the Service Rifle Winner a Remington 700 and the Match Rifle Winner a Remington 1911. The range was at capacity (or within 2 shooters of capacity for the 800 aggs).
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