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Post by orpheoet on 9/18/2015, 6:55 pm

A friend who collects S&W revolvers offered me a NIB Model 52 (-2 I think)that was part of an estate he bought. He paid $950 and that seems like a pretty good deal to me. Any info about this model would be appreciated especially how to load for it. I have some HBWC loaded 2.6 gr of WST 1.16 OAL. will that work?
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Post by AllAces on 9/18/2015, 7:13 pm

The classic load for the M52 is 148 gr wadcutter and 2.8 gr Bullseye. I get best results with Zero 148 gr hollow base wadcutters. Penn Bullets also sells a 148 gr cast solid base bullet. Use a Lee Factory Crimp die for the crimp. Test your finished ammo by dropping them in the chamber (plunk test).
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Post by orpheoet on 9/18/2015, 7:19 pm

Great info AllAces. What else can you tell me about that model. I've only seen 1 at a match and it was not functioning very well...
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Post by Wobbley on 9/18/2015, 7:51 pm

Discussion on loads for the 52 here...http://www.bullseyeforum.net/t4582-vhitavouri-n310-for-38-spcl-148-hbwc

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Post by orpheoet on 9/19/2015, 4:48 am

I've confirmed it is a 52-2, not sure of the year. Unfired. I'll post a pic when it arrives. The last list price for them was $908 in 1992?!!
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Post by Rob Kovach on 9/19/2015, 8:16 am

That's a great price.

They shoot great.
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Post by orpheoet on 9/22/2015, 10:06 pm

I saw the gun today. It is a 52-2 made in 1974(A prefix). It does appear to be NIB. All the papers are in the box and the gun is pristine. So, I want to give it a good cleaning before I shoot it. Does it break down essentially like a 1911? Is there anything I need to be aware of? I haven't fired it yet, but the trigger......Wow is all I can say......
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Post by JIMPGOV on 9/23/2015, 6:50 am

2.6 WST WILL WORK FINE. SEAT THE BULLET JUST BELOW FLUSH, LIGHT ROLL CRIMP. JP

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK on 9/23/2015, 7:23 am

orpheoet wrote:I saw the gun today. It is a 52-2 made in 1974(A prefix). It does appear to be NIB. All the papers are in the box and the gun is pristine. So, I want to give it a good cleaning before I shoot it. Does it break down essentially like a 1911? Is there anything I need to be aware of? I haven't fired it yet, but the trigger......Wow is all I can say......

Kinda sorta close
The front bushing screws in
It may sound unmanly but you may want to read the instructions
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Post by Jerry Keefer on 9/23/2015, 8:24 am

orpheoet wrote: Does it break down essentially like a 1911? Is there anything I need to be aware of?  Trigger......Wow is all I can say......

It field strips easier, but the frame/slide internals are a little more complex.
IF you disassemble the slide..such as remove the firing pin/safety, etc. beware of the small detent plunger housed in the slide.. It can disappear with unbelievable ease..And they are no longer available from parts vendors. ..Extractors, and other small parts are no longer made or in stock. Magazines have evaporated, and are selling on e-bay for $100 + ea.
Great CF gun...with much potential..
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Post by rich.tullo on 9/23/2015, 8:29 am

New Gun its a great score, worth $1100 or much more
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Post by rich.tullo on 9/23/2015, 8:31 am

WST is a great powder for 38 special just need to be hyper careful.
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Post by james r chapman on 9/23/2015, 9:37 am

rich.tullo wrote:WST is a great powder for 38 special just need to be hyper careful.

How so? More so than BE/231 ?
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Post by jglenn21 on 9/23/2015, 12:09 pm

for me the wst is way better than BE at the long line..  231 can be pretty good also.


short line....pick one but WST will group better..BE will give you tens though.

My test of one is the wife's 52-1
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Post by Jerry Keefer on 9/23/2015, 1:13 pm

james r chapman wrote:
rich.tullo wrote:WST is a great powder for 38 special just need to be hyper careful.

How so? More so than BE/231 ?

When testing the 52 this spring, I settled on BE for the short line.. 231 has in the past produced too much residue and unburnt powder at the low pressure I want at the short line..
I have several cases of red box Federal, and three cases of AMI that has been shooting well at 50, so I have not worked on the longline reloads for this gun yet..Anyway,one more outdoor match, and it gets a new 10 twist barrel..
She is shooting i n the 850/860 range presently. I expect that to improve..
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Post by orpheoet on 9/23/2015, 8:45 pm


Here it is. I just field stripped and cleaned it. Shooting it saturday
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Post by orpheoet on 9/24/2015, 9:02 am

Hmm. Smith & Wesson just advised me to only field strip it as they have no parts, and nobody that works on them.....
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Post by desben on 9/24/2015, 10:39 am

I was going to buy a 52 for international center fire a few months back, but a friend suggested that I don't, due to lack of parts. I bought a S&W mod 14 revolver instead. Different animal though, and I wouldn't shoot NRA bullseye with it (well, maybe).

I've shot 52s before and it is an outstanding pistol. It is special. I loved the grip. And the trigger!! I shot a very small groups with ease using it. I wish S&W would restart making it... And the 952.

Wonderful pistol you have there.
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Post by Rob Kovach on 9/24/2015, 12:20 pm

Even though Jerry Keefer isn't accepting any new clients at this time, I'm sure we can find you help if something goes wrong.  We have access to some really good parts making gunsmiths on this forum and others.
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Post by rich.tullo on 9/24/2015, 2:57 pm

How so? More so than BE/231 ?


Because the power is fast and creates a lot of pressure which why you will not see 9mm WST loads even though 4gn works ok with a 115gn bullet. 


2.6/2.7 WST is a great load for WCs, soft and clean, not more than 2.7 if the WC has a hollow base. 


38spl is a low pressure case and long. Thus if you double charge 5.2 gn of WST in a 38 spl case the end result is really bad. But the bullet will fit in the case no problem with all that powder so you need to be careful. 


6gn 231 could be a problem but its a slower powder so it offers a slight degree of safety.
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Post by orpheoet on 10/10/2015, 5:24 pm

Anybody know what's going on with this pitting? I just noticed it. Is this common, should I be concerned?
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Post by Wobbley on 10/10/2015, 5:54 pm

Not on mine... But the gun is 30 years old.

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Post by C.Perkins on 10/10/2015, 6:08 pm

orpheoet wrote:Anybody know what's going on with this pitting? I just noticed it. Is this common, should I be concerned?

So it was not there when you purchased it a couple weeks ago ?
They look too large to be pitting/rust in that short of time.
Casting maybe ?
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