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Post by dronning on Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:30 am

1911 slow motion cutaway from Vickers Tactical:



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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:44 pm

Exceptional video!  Thanks for posting.

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Post by knightimac on Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:55 pm

Excellent.  Thank you.
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Post by Jerry Keefer on Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:34 pm

This video brings something to light...Chuck Warner and I have been experimenting with using only one upper lug.. Chuck's idea..A great innovator.. We used to do this with 38 spl. 1911s.. Chuck renewed that idea in me for a wadcutter gun.. There has been some heated debate about this experiment.. The gun in the video, has very little remaining lug surface, all while shooting hardball. Since the gun was sacrificial, I doubt seriously that all three lugs were in contact, as I have never seen a factory gun that had all three uppers in contact. Chuck and I have both been shooting our guns with only one lug.. His and mine are running great.. My interest is extending, horizontally, the upper lug surface contact to further stabilize the barrel and gain some additional accuracy...
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Post by Jon Eulette on Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:02 pm

In the last 25 years of building match 1911's, I've only had about 4 pistols that the 2nd barrel lug made any contact with the slide. I'm in total agreement that one lug will work. Will it help accuracy? I don't think so based on 99 percent of the pistols I've built only really using one locking lug. Woeth a shot though :p)
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Post by Jerry Keefer on Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:03 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:In the last 25 years of building match 1911's, I've only had about 4 pistols that the 2nd barrel lug made any contact with the slide. I'm in total agreement that one lug will work. Will it help accuracy? I don't think so based on 99 percent of the pistols I've built only really using one locking lug. Woeth a shot though :p)
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I map out the barrels and slides and machine to achieve full horizontal lug contact.. I think it stabilizes the barrel better than one lug..Now, I am thinking that taking away the unnecessary front lugs and using that area for more contact might afford even more support and enhance accuracy.. Of course the slide will need altered also.. Either way, I enjoy the experimentation..Smile
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Post by Jon Eulette on Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:06 pm

Looking forward to seeing the final product Jerry. 
R&D!

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Post by Skid on Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:32 pm

Wow that's really cool. Again thanks for sharing.

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Post by Jerry Keefer on Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:18 pm

A cut away is very useful.. Made one years ago. I used it for teaching purposes at MCC  and it also enabled me to figure out how to bury a long link.. I like long footprints on my lower lug contact..But, this requires a longer link.  There has to be a place for the extra length to go when  cycling into and locking up in battery. I do not egg  out my link holes.. Study of the contact points at different locations of the link during a full cycle showed I could bury the link into a pocket strategically ground into the slide stop pin.. Works great..
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Post by Jon Eulette on Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:08 pm

+1,000,000
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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:43 pm

Jerry Keefer wrote:A cut away is very useful.. Made one years ago. I used it for teaching purposes at MCC  and it also enabled me to figure out how to bury a long link.. I like long footprints on my lower lug contact..But, this requires a longer link.  There has to be a place for the extra length to go when  cycling into and locking up in battery. I do not egg  out my link holes.. Study of the contact points at different locations of the link during a full cycle showed I could bury the link into a pocket strategically  ground into the slide stop pin.. Works great..
Three cheers for thread drift! I hope no one minds. I don't.

Anyway, Why is "egging out" a long link a bad thing? I've never understood the negative treatment of that I've seen over the years. Seems like the link's work is pulling the barrel down in unlocking, and an oblong hole in it to keep the barrel "feet" doing the lockup on closing should be almost irrelevant.

Just curious.

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Post by Jon Eulette on Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:56 pm

I personally don't have a problem with minorly egging out a link. Unfortunately many so called gunsmiths butcher it. Majority of pistols I see have improperly fit link. Proper link length in the 1st place helps. 
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Re: Awesome 1911 cutaway slow motion

Post by Jerry Keefer on Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:37 pm


Anyway, Why is "egging out" a long link a bad thing?

Have you ever heard an engine running with a bad connecting rod..?? Same thing..The slop and energy created by the poor fit is transferred somewhere..Many issues with lower lug bump is the result of egged out links. The link does pull the barrel out of battery, but in a properly fit link, it also should partially assist lifting the lower lugs over the slide stop pin to avoid the dreaded bump...
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