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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:03 pm

Well, I started using 700-X almost two years ago mainly because literally no other pistol powder had shown up on the shelves locally for about 6 months.

Saw Bullseye exactly once since then.  Tried Win Auto-Comp in the non-bullseye shooting loads for a bit, haven't seen any since. Have NEVER laid eyes on a container of BE-86, CFE-Pistol, and probably a few other newer powders. Can't even remember if I've seen Power Pistol since before the 2012 elections.

So, what IS getting on the shelves these days? I am seeing a lot of rifle powders, a LOT, but pistol powders remain even more scarce than .22 LR ammo.

I'm about to use some of the 700-X in 9mm loads mainly because there are no other choices for local pickup. I just don't want to mail order and have the price jacked up so much with HazMat, and would rather ration my funds to other things than getting 7 more pounds of powder than I want this year.

Hoping that anything useful in my "known good loads list" is showing up elsewhere, and will soon arrive here...

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Post by orpheoet on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:18 pm

For about 6 months its been good around me. Northeast Ohio area has Pretty much any pistol powder I know of except for the Vihtavuori stuff.

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Where are you located?

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Post by Fire Escape on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:54 pm

Two years ago 700X was all I could find here. I never did come up with a satisfactory 9mm load with it BUT, I was trying to shoot 147gr cast lead bullets (not bullseye). I was right up to max by the book and while they would function in my old S&Ws and 92F, they were too weak for an XD and the new Sig 320. I had to go to CFE Pistol to feed those guns. It and BE-86 were readily available in the LGS here, in fact they had it 'on sale' for less than $20 much of the summer. I did luck into a can (I guess 'bottle' these days) of Bullseye recently and last month they got in enough CCI sv that I was able to buy 10 bricks. That is a whole lot better than two 50rd boxes per day (if they had ANY .22lr) that has been the norm for a few years. While not where I would like it to be things are improving here.

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Post by rfmiller on Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:18 pm

I've seen much more pistol powder in the last few months around here (west central Missouri).  Saw Bullseye and several others including Accurate #7 which I use in my 38 super.  Hadn't seen it for a LONG time.

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Post by Bigtrout on Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:14 am

Here in northern Vermont there are ample supplies of TG, VV and BE-86 in 1 lb. cans.  I have not been able to find WSF, PP or Bullseye in the local shops.

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Post by AllAces on Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:33 am

After being on back order for 14 months I finally received 4 pounds of N310 from Brownells.

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Post by desben on Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:50 am

I started reloading about 6 months ago. There was nothing available then. I too settled for 700x, which it turns out is pretty good for .38. The situation improved dramatically about 1 month ago... Lots of HP-38, Titegroup, Clays. Some Alliant Bullseye.

Similarly, 22 is a lot more available. It's in every store, and as far as I'm aware, they all lifted their restrictions (such as 1 brick per customer). A local hunting store I visited last week had just received 30 cases of Remington and was selling it at a very decent price. There's a fair bit of CCI standard too. My club just purchased 1,400 bricks of Federal 711b.

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Post by Dockokol on Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:04 am

I don't know if its still available, but I bought 4 lbs of Bullseye from the BassPro Shop web page about a month ago.  They shipped it to my local store at no cost, and I didn't have to pay a hazardous material fee.

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Post by rich.tullo on Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:26 am

My local guy seems to get Bullseye in every month or so. I know a guy that has a bunch of VV310 for sale. 

Powder Valley seems to have a lot and they have tite group cheap a friend told me. I am good so I passed but its much better now. 

A little down turn in commodity prices seems to be freeing up supply.

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Post by BE Mike on Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:07 am

I had Alliant American Select on back order for around a year. It finally came in a couple of weeks ago. I had to buy more than I had planned on (bigger container) but I finally got it! .22 ammo has been hit and miss at Bass Pro and local gun shops. I haven't seen any on the shelves of the local big box stores, i.e. WalMart and Meijer for years.

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:31 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote:Where are you located?
St George UT

It's been a while since I was able to check a few places in the LV valley.

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Post by GrumpyOldMan on Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:42 pm

Fire Escape wrote:Two years ago 700X was all I could find here. I never did come up with a satisfactory 9mm load with it BUT, I was trying to shoot 147gr cast lead bullets (not bullseye). I was right up to max by the book [snip]

Bruce
Yeah, I tried that too, the alloy had them dropping more like 150 gr and primers were uncomfortably flat at both 2.55 gr and 805-25 fps (cycled okay) and 2.45 gr (cycled but one string did not lock the slide) and 790 fps or so.

This was with the H&G 73 SWC. Never really found a real "book" load for them but found QuickLOAD using Red Dot, sometimes a bit adjusted, was close to observed values. Some groups showed promise but always had one flyer beyond the 10-ring.

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Post by AllAces on Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:36 pm

Grafs is listing N310 in stock in 1 and 4 lb jugs.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/3512/page/3?

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Post by 243winxb on Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:30 am

Yesterday seen, CFE Pistol, tightgroup,  296,700x,800x and most all other IMR rifle powders here in Pa. USA.

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Post by JLeeACP on Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:08 pm

Seeing Titegroup at guite a few places here in upstate SC.

Hey...my first post. Smile

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Post by rich.tullo on Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:35 pm

Titegroup is everywhere and cheap.

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Re: Powders Available Lately?

Post by GrumpyOldMan on Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:37 pm

Titegroup has shown up here in both 1- and 4-lb containers, also at a reasonable price.

I went for the single expensive 1-pounder of Win Auto-Comp. I have worked up some 9mm loads with it, will try it for +P .38 Specials sometime. I like the flash inhibiter it has, compared to Power Pistol (still unobtainium here, but that classic 6.0 gr load in 9mm with 115-gr H-XTPs was showing some promise...).

Haven't ever used TiteGroup, will pass since 700-X fills the role I would use it in.

Glad to hear things ARE getting better. BE powder seems spotty depending on where you are, but at least it's getting out here into the wild.  I keep getting tempted by BE, but IF I go back onto the load development train, my first choice would be BE-86. Don't think I have EVER laid eyes on a jug of that stuff, and it's been out, what? 2 years now?

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