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Post by LenV on 12/12/2015, 11:55 pm

I almost put this in with the discussion/poll on Perry v Cardinal as that was the way that OP was leaning but 7 pages is enough to get lost in. I have a serious question about the cost of E-targets. I see figures like 3-4k per lane but I wonder if that is realistic. What does it cost for one target? I mean 1 target. Is there a system that you have to purchase that makes it cost prohibitive for small range America? Can it work with a range that only has 20 firing points? 10? There is discussion about the E-targets being the wave of the future. I just wonder if the price tag of 3-4k is because they are getting a discount because of quantity buying. That's scary. We have a big match here in Oregon if we can get 20 people to the line.

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Post by Jon Eulette on 12/13/2015, 12:00 am

Exactly!
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Post by dronning on 12/13/2015, 1:52 am

A little additional follow up from I understand by the time the range is modified and everything is installed the per lane price goes up to $6-12K. The targets might be only $4K but a lot of work needs to be done to get them installed.

My 10M SIUS airgun target cost $1,300 new and it uses my laptop as the monitor.

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Post by Jack H on 12/13/2015, 2:16 am

Electric targets than other supported elite type use would have to make their own revenue stream to purchase and maintain the system.  Given the marksmanship level and attitude of most of the public and members at our range, we would often need new targets daily.
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Post by desben on 12/13/2015, 7:24 am

The Canadian government bought 30 SIUS 10m e-targets for the army cadets. They spent $381k. The supplier was from South Carolina. The targets for air pistol/rifle are very small; would the cost go up significantly to handle the big Precision Pistol targets?

PDF of the full specs for the contract

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Post by dronning on 12/13/2015, 8:41 am

desben wrote:The Canadian government bought 30 SIUS 10m e-targets for the army cadets. They spent $381k. The supplier was from South Carolina. The targets for air pistol/rifle are very small; would the cost go up significantly to handle the big Precision Pistol targets?

PDF of the full specs for the contract

Contract details

The HS-10 is the same system I bought as a stand alone.

The attached SOW was for an additional 4 30 target systems, 120 lanes total.  Each of the 4 systems would have their own server, wiring and 30 targets each with a monitor, 1 set of spare circuit boards.  The SOW also asked for complete set up and testing to be done.

Still a turnkey eTarget set up for air rifle/pistol is $3,200 per lane (I am assuming the $381K is for the 4 additional set ups).

There is no way a High Power or Precision Pistol range could go in for anything close to TWICE that price.

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Post by desben on 12/13/2015, 11:22 am

Thanks for correcting me dronning! I had read this quick, and did not realize it was for 4 installations. It makes a big difference!
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Post by Toz35m on 12/13/2015, 11:32 am

Len,

Tri-co gun club has e-targets for the junior program.  It is set up on the 10 point indoor range for when the juniors practice.  They can run matches on it and all connect to a central computer.  For them it makes lots of sense considering the goals of the kids and were they can go by training on the same type of set up  they will see at larger matches.
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Post by james r chapman on 12/13/2015, 1:28 pm

so, what's the cost for 20 lanes, outdoors, at the local club level.
how do you handle 25 and 50 yds.

I don't want to get quotes for 10m indoor air gun installations.
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Post by LenV on 12/13/2015, 1:59 pm

Toz35m,  I didn't know they already had e-targets at Tri County. That is good for the youngsters. I wonder how they would work for WVPL? I can't imagine going to E-targets on the pistol range however. As much money that was spent on replacing the baffles could you imagine them putting hardened (think ricochet) targets down range?

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Post by ChipEck on 12/13/2015, 8:56 pm

So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you?  :-)

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Post by LenV on 12/13/2015, 9:13 pm

ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you?  :-)

Chip

You can take a picture of the monitor on your cell phone. Then print it out any size you want. Or share it on Facebook. Smile
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Post by dronning on 12/13/2015, 11:45 pm

ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you?  :-)

Chip
Actually they can email you a PDF of the target via the software.  The reports can be set up so you get one target per page or a summary like the one in the link.

PDF of recent SIUS target

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Post by james r chapman on 12/14/2015, 5:22 am

And, you can Photoshop it.,
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Post by KevinB on 12/14/2015, 6:53 am

lol!

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Post by BE Mike on 12/14/2015, 9:16 am

ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you?  :-)

Chip
I have a target that I saved from Camp Perry (like many of you). It was witnessed by a great guy who has passed away. I have another target witnessed by another great guy who is no longer with us. Looks like those days are passing by. Having said that, technology is advancing quickly. Looks like we either jump on board or we'll be left behind.
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Post by Fire Escape on 12/14/2015, 9:34 am

BE Mike wrote:
ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you?  :-)

Chip
I have a target that I saved from Camp Perry (like many of you). It was witnessed by a great guy who has passed away. I have another target witnessed by another great guy who is no longer with us. Looks like those days are passing by. Having said that, technology is advancing quickly. Looks like we either jump on board or we'll be left behind.

So many worry about being left behind, I am not so sure that it is a bad thing! Far too many changes are made (largely in business) just so that the person suggesting the change can justify their existence (job). Frequently a look back shows steps that should not have been taken but by then it's time for the next change......

What is so wrong with maintaining the status quo in a very traditional sport? We worry at length about not attracting 'today's youth' to the shooting sports because our targets do not resemble video games, well guess what, successful shooting is hard work and there has never been a 'majority' that were willing to do that hard work. A small percentage will put down their smart phones long enough to give it a try but few will become dedicated no matter what the targets become.

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Post by jmdavis on 12/14/2015, 11:17 am

I like paper targets. But in Air Pistol, I find that I shoot the same whether at paper or E-targets. 

The difference with Bullseye is the turn, just as it was the difference with Rapid Fire Pistol. I know for a fact that I get a couple of points without the turn vs. with the turn. However, that doesn't mean I think it is a good thing.
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Post by jglenn21 on 12/14/2015, 1:14 pm

I just can't see local clubs doing the electronic thing. Heck if our turning targets break We can fix them ourselves. Darn things are at least 30 years old

Be fine at larger events like the new CMP ranges at Talladega
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Post by Toz35m on 12/14/2015, 1:49 pm

OldMaster65 wrote:Toz35m,  I didn't know they already had e-targets at Tri County. That is good for the youngsters. I wonder how they would work for WVPL? I can't imagine going to E-targets on the pistol range however. As much money that was spent on replacing the baffles could you imagine them putting hardened (think ricochet) targets down range?

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Len,

They will not be used for WVPL.  The have been there for 2 years now I think.
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Post by Regular_Guy on 12/14/2015, 8:40 pm

At Talladega they did give us printouts from the booth on our hits in all the rifle and pistol matches. I'm sure it could be photoshopped like anything else could I just typed a novel to AllAces about my time there last week, so I'll post it elsewhere.
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Post by Danehogle on 12/18/2015, 2:45 pm

RG, did they look at your ammo also? Was ammo discussed ?

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