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Recoil Spring Weight

Post by Tristar on Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:57 am

I looked in the search function and read 3 previous threads on recoil springs and I also read the recent "Range Trip" thread. I realize there is no hard a fast absolute answer to the correct weight to be used.

I have my first ever 1911 on its way to me. It is a Hardball gun (with 18 1/2 lb spring for hardball) which I intend to also shoot wadcutter with. I will need a light spring if not shooting hardball-which will be most of the time. I will be shooting iron sights. I saw that Joe and Rob use a 10 lb recoil spring. I am assuming they are using a dot to shoot with. Will it make any difference to what weight recoil spring is needed if just shooting iron sights compared to a dot?

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Post by SMBeyer on Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:03 pm

Jack,

The spring weight with a dot only matters if the dot is mounted on the slide. If you shoot a frame mounted dot it is the same as shooting one with iron sights. I have a 13# in my wad gun with a frame mounted dot shooting 3.8gr of Hercules Bullseye behind 200gr Star at the long line and 185gr Zero at the short line. I cant tell a difference in recoil between the two and to me the load is very nice to shoot. I think the guys shooting the 10# springs are using slide mounted dots. Ask around if you decide to shoot Bullseye powder because the new Alliant Bullseye I think is slightly different than the old Bullseye and you may need to up the powder charge a little.Good luck with your new .45 it's deffinately an adventure compared to that air pistol of yours. Scott
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Post by Paper-Puncher on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:49 pm

Jack,

If you gonna shoot opens - Bullseye Gear has springs in 1lb increments....If you gonna shoot 200gr with like 3.9 clays a 13-14 lb should do it ....If your gonna shoot 3.8 to 4.0 Bullseye 12-13 should work....I find Bullseye @ 4.0 grains shoots noticeable softer than clays ....Ive mounted a dot so I'm gonna try a 10-11 ....Bullseye gear has spring for like $6.89 I think

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Post by dan allen on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:04 pm

You want the heaviest weight spring that will lock the slide back after the last shot - most of the time. If the gun is functioning correctly and not throwing empty cases a mile - preferably right at your feet - you are using the right spring. My hard ball .45 has a 16# spring and functions fine with a 200 gr SWC over 4 gr of Bullseye.


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Post by DavidR on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:41 pm

12-13 should work fine
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Post by Tristar on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:45 pm

I certainly thank all of you for the replies. I had a feeling that having a dot mounted on the top would make a difference in the recoil spring weight. I will probably order three different weights and will have to try each starting with the heaviest and work my way down.

Scott-I am sorry you are having the lead problem. Yes, the 45 will be a new experience. You know I like the international shooting with the air pistol and free pistol. Greg Markowski, Emil Milev, and a couple of other fellows were after me to get a 22 to shoot standard and possibly rapid fire. I did pick up a 22. I reasoned that BE matches would be good training with the 22. Naturally everyone at the BE matches is after me to get a 45. It will be here tomorrow. A friend is going to load some ammo for me. I know that is my next step; reloading. I just need to find an extra 6 hours in a day.

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Post by Paper-Puncher on Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:06 pm

Have fun with the .45 Jack, I just set up a Range Officer and have been enjoying it. I would make a suggestion as you are new to it as I am try some 185 or 200 lswc at like 3.8-4.0 of BE it shots very accurately and the recoil isnt bad ....not that target loads have alot of recoil but you as I have been shooting alot of AP and .22 ..the .45 is a whole different bird and I think it takes some getting used to I am just now getting slow fire scores in the low 80's and have been able to manage alittle timed fire....havent try any rapid yet.. Ive never shot a 230gr ball one handed may have to try it with my carry gun just to see how it feels.......again enjoy the new toy

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Post by SMBeyer on Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:41 pm

Jack,

That is how this pistol shooting addiction works. One gun leads to the other which leads to another. I know a lot of guys that will only shoot "bullseye" but I like shooting them all. I bought a $150 barrel for my model 41 to shoot standard pistol. I used it twice and then HAD to buy a new Walther SSP. I think standard pistol is one of the funnest and got my masters classification in it a couple weeks ago. Right now I am turning a new Springfield Range Officer into a service pistol for "leg" matches and am anxious to see how it turns out. Who knows whats next... Scott
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Post by Dave C. on Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:49 pm

4.2 grains of bullseye under a 200 grain lead swc will run a ball gun as is.

I have a 22 lb spring in my ball gun and the 4.2 gr/lead swc runs it just fine.



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