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Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by AllAces on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:05 am

I don't recall the vendor, but at Perry someone was selling a slide and barrel to convert a 1911 .45 ACP to a .38 Super.  My question is: What modifications are needed other than the slide and barrel to convert a 1911 to .38 Super? Not looking for a bullseye quality .38 Super.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by LenV on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:11 am

You need 38 super magazines. I recently converted two 1911's to 38 super. A 40 S&W and a 9mm. All that I had to do on those two was change the barrel. (and get magazines)

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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by Jon Eulette on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:23 am

Need to change ejector, use .38 super slide stop pin.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by r_zerr on Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:04 am

And if you are going to shoot 38 super, you will probably want/need a ramped barrel for case-head support. If your 1911 lower is a standard one, that means machining it for the barrel/ramp that you choose.

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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by AllAces on Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:27 pm

LenV wrote:You need 38 super magazines. I recently converted two 1911's to 38 super. A 40 S&W and a 9mm. All that I had to do on those two was change the barrel. (and get magazines)

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Len, mind telling me where you got the barrels and magazines. PM me you like.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by LenV on Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:07 pm

Easy answer. I am an E-bay stalker. I put 38 super w/nowlin ramp on my watch for list. I waited a long time and a Storm Lake (new) showed up for a great price. Then another barrel (manufacturer ??) showed up and I grabbed it also. There are a lot of sources for 38 super mags. They are still making them. I use Wilson. Remember I started with a 40 cal and a 9mm. Both of those pistols have the correct slide stop and are W/N ramped. More info here http://www.bullseyeforum.net/t5323-converting-a-9mm-ro-to-a-38-super?highlight=38+super

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Storm Lake in Kimber, Unknown in RO. I suspect it might be a Fusion barrel.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by rich.tullo on Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:51 am

Much easier to convert a 9mm to 38 Super than a 45ACP.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by cwo4uscgret on Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:46 pm

Here's my "Two for One" Colt project that Greg Derr, Derr Precision completed for me.  I bought the package of a 1952 circa Colt Government Model .45 with a spare .38 Super top end including an ejector.  When I bought this package the .45 was chrome plated and the .38 Super nickel plated.  Greg's first task was to have the gun and slides stripped to bare metal, then to blue them and make them mechanically sound.

To change from .45 acp to .38 Super one needed to remove the slide and barrel; drift the ejector pin out, change ejectors, and install the other caliber's slide and barrel assembly.  Greg simplified this procedure by making a much tighter fit of slide to frame; no pin required when changing the ejector.

As many of you know, Greg is an awesome shooter; but his gun smith skills are also on the same par with his shooting ability!


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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by rich.tullo on Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:54 am

Nice ,
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by mpolans on Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:33 pm

Only need a supported barrel if you're shooting hot loads, like USPSA major loads. If you're shooting bullseye mouse fart loads, you shouldn't need a supported barrel. 
Slide (and internals...it uses a smaller diameter firing pin and different extractor)
barrel
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mags
adjust recoil spring to load.

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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by cwo4uscgret on Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:15 pm

mpolans - I should have replied sooner - the .38 Super upper is all .38 Super.

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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by jglenn21 on Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:34 pm

agree with mpolans.. a standard ramp works just fine if you are shooting BE loads... feeds perfectly too

we have both  Kart and KKM barreled supers and neither has bulged cases.
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by james r chapman on Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:59 pm

The wilson 9mm mags just needed the back spacer remove to accomodate the longer super cartridge.

The Sig barrels ($40+) seem to be working well....
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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by daflorc on Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:55 am

AllAces wrote:
LenV wrote:You need 38 super magazines. I recently converted two 1911's to 38 super. A 40 S&W and a 9mm. All that I had to do on those two was change the barrel. (and get magazines)

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Len, mind telling me where you got the barrels and magazines. PM me you like.

I've got a bunch of extra 38 super magazines if you're in the market.

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Re: Converting 1911 to .38 Super Question

Post by Jake1911 on Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:25 pm

Do you have any pictures of the 38 super mags your wanting to sell? What brand are they and how much would you be asking?
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