New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

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New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by DirComp on Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:11 pm

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Due to the High Power matches being moved from Camp Perry to Camp Atterbury, IN, the pistol dates will change. The championship will now be held July 9-14, 2017.

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by MarkOue on Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:49 pm

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by dronning on Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:28 pm

Well looks like there was a compromise. This works for me and I can make Canton too.  Bummed I can't make NTI & P100 though.  

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Danehogle on Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:43 pm

Rreid, 
I think that the NRA is working on this.

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NRA Pistol Sked for Camp Perry 2017

Post by ted.carter.568 on Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:19 pm

As most of you know by now the NRA National Pistol Champs for 2017 will be conducted July 9-13.  I sent a note to Dennis Willing asking him for the schedule of events during that time.  He provided the below and asked that I post.

July 9 – Registration
July 10 – Range 1 – Alternating relays of Harry Reeves and DR, all day
July 10 – Ranges 2,3,4 – Preliminary Pistol Match/Preliminary Pistol Team Match
July 11 – Range 1 opens for function firing and practice
July 11 – Ranges 2,3,4 - .22 Aggregate, .22 Team
July 12 – Ranges 2,3,4 – CF Aggregate, CF Team
July 13 – Ranges 2,3,4 - .45 Aggregate, .45 Team, Awards Ceremony

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by weber1b on Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:38 pm

So revolver and prelim will be going on simultaneously. Does help fill up the day, especially when previously revolver and EIC were there to fill the one day together.

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by john bickar on Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:39 pm

So July 7-13 will get you Canton and Perry with the exception of 100 rounds of CMP matches?

That's a lot of shooting in 7 days. I'll run the numbers later but it's pretty compelling for a West-Coaster.

Edit: if my arithmetic is correct, that's 870 shots fired in competition in seven days.


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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Chris Miceli on Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:56 pm

john bickar wrote:So July 7-13 will get you Canton and Perry with the exception of 100 rounds of CMP matches?

That's a lot of shooting in 6 days. I'll run the numbers later but it's pretty compelling for a West-Coaster.


Canton for sure July 7-9?

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by dronning on Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:58 pm

Christopher Miceli wrote:
john bickar wrote:So July 7-13 will get you Canton and Perry with the exception of 100 rounds of CMP matches?

That's a lot of shooting in 6 days. I'll run the numbers later but it's pretty compelling for a West-Coaster.


Canton for sure July 7-9?

On their website, on the header but they forgot to change the text in the body:
https://www.cantonmckinleyriflepistol.org/regional_info/default.html

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by john bickar on Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:34 am

Christopher Miceli wrote:
john bickar wrote:So July 7-13 will get you Canton and Perry with the exception of 100 rounds of CMP matches?

That's a lot of shooting in 6 days. I'll run the numbers later but it's pretty compelling for a West-Coaster.


Canton for sure July 7-9?

That's what Jeff Byham said today on FB.

In the past decade, when I've headed east to shoot bullseye, I've chosen Canton over Perry, in part for some obvious reasons, but also because Canton is a better match at a nicer facility than Perry, and because it's damn near impossible for me to take two weeks off of work and spend a few grand on something that I've done a dozen times already.

800+ rounds in seven days might make the trip to shoot both matches a lot more compelling for me. I've already got  Distinguished, P100, Elihu Root, Oglethorpe. I'm not gonna fly to Ohio to shoot 100 rounds then fly back to California. I mean, even the Olympic Trials are at least 120 rounds.

Of course, I'll probably be carrying my shoulder home in a paper bag at the end of those seven days, but I'll have gotten my money's worth Very Happy

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by CR10X on Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:07 am

I'm with John on this one.  For the time versus the shooting, talking to old friends and new ones, eating and drinking opportunities, I'll have to take Canton / Perry for a week over the CMP matches on just Saturday and Sunday.  Yep, Canton is better for some things (food, range staff, social opportunities, etc.) and Perry is better for some things (vendors, CMP airgun range/store, more people, smaller cookouts, sightseeing, etc.)

And hanging around northern Ohio for the 4th of July week waiting for Canton to start on Friday doesn't appeal to me very much either.  I'm sure some people will like just shooting CMP over 2 days since it doesn't take too much time.  

How many vendors will be there for first week of CMP with some limited matches, take the 4th of July week off, and then come back for 3 - 4 weeks for NRA / CMP remaining rifle matches?  Thank you NRA / CMP for screwing the people that also support us and one the reasons we go to Perry (NRA and CMP matches). 

On the other hand, with the CMP we're just shooting for the overall or some specific description (civilian, overall, etc); where as with the NRA matches (Canton / Perry) we're also competing within our classifications.  

On the third hand, I'll sure miss not getting the Presidents 100 for the XX time in a row or trying to rack up some more .22 Distinguished points.  

This was the point I was trying to make earlier, all matches will get better participation with a complete and coordinated schedule.  And like John, my message will be: 

"Dear NRA / CMP: I'll pick the matches with the most shooting over the shortest amount of time more often than not. Thank you.  Cecil" 

And I'm checking out again on this subject. 

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Blsi2600 on Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:52 am

I think NRA gets what they are given by CMP.  Hard to compromise if you have no control of range dates and CMP has total control of all aspects of Perry civilian event shooting. 

Bristol and Canton will have to adjust to NRA dates for 2700 attendance purposes.  OR???

I hate to see the NRA National Matches move away from Perry for tradition reasons, but Cardinal is looking better every day.  

The only downside I see to Cardinal is housing expense.  No $13.00 beds for
those on tight budgets.

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Danehogle on Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:20 pm

Blsi2600 wrote:I think NRA gets what they are given by CMP.  Hard to compromise if you have no control of range dates and CMP has total control of all aspects of Perry civilian event shooting. 

Bristol and Canton will have to adjust to NRA dates for 2700 attendance purposes.  OR???

I hate to see the NRA National Matches move away from Perry for tradition reasons, but Cardinal is looking better every day.  

The only downside I see to Cardinal is housing expense.  No $13.00 beds for
those on tight budgets
No $13.00 beds ......
Yet... they are working on that .....

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Ghillieman on Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:02 pm

Does anyone have dates for the Bristol Regional?

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Doug Hall on Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:02 pm

Being a vendor on vendor row at Camp Perry I have not been contacted by anyone with any date changes from June, I contacted many of the other vendors that attend pistol week and they too have not been contacted. Amateur hour.

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by teg2658 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:59 pm

From time to time I think about all my trips to Camp Perry and miss those days, after reading what is going on now I don't miss it a bit. 
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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by jmdavis on Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:36 am

If you shoot pistol and rifle the new dates aren't horrible. I had planned to shoot Canton, NRA and them CMP on the original dates and I set up my leave months ago to do that. I will now shoot the rifle 2400, a rifle leg, 22 pistol leg leg, P100 pistol and a Service pistol leg match. It's less pistol shooting than I wanted, but extra rifle time at Perry and I think that can benefit me.

I could actually make the trip with less leave than I have scheduled and that might allow me some flexibility at other tines.

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Re: New Pistol Dates at Camp Perry

Post by Ghillieman on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:57 am

jmdavis, I saw the same thing. I need to finish out my rifle badge that I started in 2000 as a junior.

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