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Post by Tim:H11 on 3/27/2017, 9:46 am

If I wanted to put a smooth narrow type trigger in my S&W Model 14-3 for Distinguished Revolver matches, would that be legal?
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Post by orpheoet on 3/27/2017, 10:04 am

If it was a factory option when it was made.
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Post by Tim:H11 on 3/27/2017, 10:27 am

orpheoet wrote:If it was a factory option when it was made.

I don't know if it was or not. Not sure how to find out. Does anyone here know? It's a 14-3. I don't know what year.
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Post by cdrt on 3/27/2017, 12:37 pm

Yep, you could get a smooth trigger from S&W.  Not as common as the grooved kind.  I would not DQ you for that kind of trigger.  It was called a "combat" trigger; smooth and slightly narrower than a standard target trigger.
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Post by Tim:H11 on 3/27/2017, 12:50 pm

cdrt wrote:Yep, you could get a smooth trigger from S&W.  Not as common as the grooved kind.  I would not DQ you for that kind of trigger.  It was called a "combat" trigger; smooth and slightly narrower than a standard target trigger.

Where could I find one?
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Post by cdrt on 3/27/2017, 1:20 pm

Numrich is sold out right now on that trigger.  You might call Smith and Wesson and see if they have one.  I checked Brownells and did not see it in their inventory.
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Post by Sa-tevp on 3/27/2017, 9:33 pm

Tim:H11 wrote: Where could I find one?

I bought a hammer and trigger set recently from fleabay for $35 for my latest crazy cat lady 1975 14-3 almost no-turn-line safe queen purchase, and then bought another trigger also for $35. There were several others and they show up as people part out revolvers or sell new-old stock.

The first trigger had the upper surface of the top trigger hook/cylinder stop camming bevel beveled but it looked production. I had some initial install problems* until I cleaned all the old dried oil from the cylinder stop and it's post. I ordered the second trigger as back up as the trigger hook has square edges like the original .265" standard serrated trigger I was replacing.

*the cylinder stop was not always moving all the way aft to engage the trigger hook, causing the trigger/hammer to be jammed on the cylinder stop when the cylinder was in the frame. All is fine now but my mechanic mind is binary - things are either broken or are going to be broken.
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Post by Jack H on 3/28/2017, 12:42 am

This part of the DR Pistol rule seems so counter productive to allow used revolvers with unknown modifications.    How would anyone know of trigger work beyond sear honing, a Taylor throat, or stop pin in the rebound slide. 

...the honing of the sear or sear notch to make a more crisp trigger, and maintain
a 2 1/2 lb. minimum trigger pull, no external or internal modification may be made to the revolver as manufactured and sold by the factory of origin. No parts may be removed from the revolver, either externally or internally, nor may any part be added,...
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Post by Sa-tevp on 3/28/2017, 11:07 am

After a bunch of research it looks like the .312" Combat Trigger was first seen widely on the Texas Ranger Commemorative Model 19-3 introduced in 1973 but may have been lurking in the S&W parts bins since the late 1950s. The triggers became standard on revolvers after late 1982.

This reminds me of the Pontiac factory rats who would spec out a GTO station wagon or other order sheet weirdness that would drive later collectors nuts. 

I still can't figure out why DR doesn't allow adjustable front sights. Many pre-1950 target revolvers used them.
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