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Size/deprime/bell before clean

Post by Russ OR on 3/31/2017, 11:25 am

Repeat:
Depriming before SSpin or sonic cleaning:   - If you do this on a progressive reloader, why not size and bell at the same time?
I wedge the powder funnel in the up position so the powder bar isn't moving/wearing.

Fired, dirty Brass:
1st -Spritz a little Remoil spray on an old towel-toss some (100±?) or so cases on it. - Fold the towel over top & quickly (on flat surface) roll the brass between.-Dump.- Repeat. Takes little time - slightly cleans & sorta lubes the brass for sizing. - Discard towel after a few batches.-

Hand prime - or prime on machine as you reload.  - Loading with clean pre-sized, pre-belled brass (maybe even pre-primed) is smooth.

Last couple batches of SS pin cleaned brass, I used STM Tarnish inhibitor after.-It's early, but I think I like it. 

I think STM pins are best - consistent length. -It's the one brand pins (of 3) that I don't think I've ever had one stuck in a primer pocket. -- -Russ

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Post by Gary Wells on 4/3/2017, 1:58 pm

I re-load in a very similar fashion. Even though I re-load single stage on a Dillon 550 I prefer to prepare my cases in the following manner: De-cap & size, clean by vibrator with Nu-Finish & media, tumble to remove all media, visually inspect & maybe case gage, & store for next reload session. This system works very well for me, but probably not for others that like to load in a quicker style.

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Post by Wobbley on 4/3/2017, 2:33 pm

For pistol pins are not necessary.  In rifle pins can stick inside the case and you don't want one going down the barrel of your rifle.  So I don't use pins.  

YMMV.
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Post by kjanracing on 4/3/2017, 2:44 pm

What are the pins you are speaking of?
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Post by Gary Wells on 4/3/2017, 4:10 pm

Maybe the SS cleaning pins? I'm OCD but way too lazy to try and wet clean.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 4/3/2017, 4:14 pm

I only use new brass @ 50. Throw fired brass in wet media tumbler. Dry and start reloading on the star or 550
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Post by Jack H on 4/3/2017, 5:40 pm

Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?
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Post by Chris Miceli on 4/3/2017, 5:50 pm

Jack H wrote:Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?

It's cheap enough, and I only use it at matches so 1,000 will last me the year.
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Post by s1120 on 4/4/2017, 9:33 am

Chris Miceli wrote:I only use new brass @ 50. Throw fired brass in wet media tumbler. Dry and start reloading on the star or 550

I was thinking the same thing. Granted I can in no way shoot good enough to see a difference, but being that all my 38spc, and 45 brass, is old, mix and match, a little bit of everything, I think its time to start working with some known brass...

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Post by Wobbley on 4/4/2017, 9:57 am

Jack H wrote:Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?
We know from rifle shooting that accuracy falls off after 4 firings.  But some claim that the drop is faster in as few as two firings.  My experience of over 30 years of rifle was that at 4 firings I either annealed or relegated the brass to "less important matches". 

My technique for pistol is to use brass for 3 firings at the 50 yard line from new.  Then to the 25 yard line bin.  I just bought 500 new cases.  I'm going to load my last 185 gr. Winchester FMJWC bullets in these and shoot them only at 50.
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean

Post by jglenn21 on 4/4/2017, 10:26 am

New pistol brass has two things going for it typically.

consistent length( think consistent crimp )

long length ( think headspace )
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean

Post by rich.tullo on 4/4/2017, 8:38 pm

Fresh Brass is good for a 1/8 to 1/2 inch at 50 Yards. I think Jon Eulette did a study. After 1x there is no meaningful difference between newer and used brass. 

Another study, I forget by whom said the only thing in case prep that makes a difference in accuracy are clean primer pockets.
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