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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 5/11/2017, 7:30 pm

Looking to start on Distinguished Revolver ( DR ) and not seeking to reload initially due to time/distance to Nationals.
Therefore I need to pick up some factory ammunition to take to Perry.  Eventually I'll reload, but I need an interim/short term solution.

Here's what I've been able to find below.  Happy to buy a box of each and see what works best, but hoping to narrow the field a little before I swipe my credit card.
Let me know if there are any viable/better options, or if I'm on the path.  Zero experience with 38 wheel guns.

Thanks as always,
Derek

Winchester Super-X 38 Special 158 grain (gr) Lead Semi Wadcutter (LSWC) Match Ammo
https://www.venturamunitions.com/winchester-super-x-38-special-158gr-semi-wadcutter-match-ammo-50-rounds/


Federal Law Enforcement 38 Special Ammo 158 Grain Lead Semi-Wadcutter (LSWC)
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-law-enforcement-38-special-ammo-158-grain-lead-semi-wadcutter-38c-p-4457.aspx



Remington Target Pistol / Revolver 38 Special 158 grain (gr) Lead Semi-Wad Cutter (LWSC)
https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/8521b/products/14707/images/19434/wadcutter__77806.1367961447.386.513.jpg?c=2



Federal American Eagle Ammunition 38 Special 158 Grain (gr) Lead Semi-Wadcutter (LSWC)

http://www.luckygunner.com/38-special-158-gr-lswc-federal-50-rounds




Remington Target Pistol / Revolver 158 grain ( gr ) Lead Round Nose ( LRN )
http://www.luckygunner.com/bulk-38-spl-ammo-38special158lrnrtg38s5rem-500



Magtech Sport 38 Special Ammo 158 Grain (GR) Lead Round Nose (LRN)


https://www.targetsportsusa.com/magtech-sport-38-special-ammo-158-grain-lrn-mga38a-p-2865.aspx


Zero / Roze Distribution 158 grain (gr) LSWC and LRN

http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?



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Re: 38 Special Factory 158gr Lead Semi-Wadcutter or Lead Round Nose For Distinguished Revolver

Post by Wobbley on 5/11/2017, 7:33 pm

Some people on this board have had slightly better luck with LRN.
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Re: 38 Special Factory 158gr Lead Semi-Wadcutter or Lead Round Nose For Distinguished Revolver

Post by Chris Miceli on 5/11/2017, 7:37 pm

What gun do you have?
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 5/11/2017, 7:44 pm

1956 Smith and Wesson K38 4 screw

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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/11/2017, 7:51 pm

In my old 14-3 I had really good luck with magtech 158 Lrn @50. 158lrn American eagle,Remington umc, and regular green box Remington were good as well at 50.


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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 5/11/2017, 8:05 pm

Wobbley wrote:Some people on this board have had slightly better luck with LRN.

Federal American Eagle 38 Special 158 Grain Lead Round Nose ( LRN )

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/137882/federal-american-eagle-ammunition-38-special-158-grain-lead-round-nose-box-of-50



Remington Target Pistol / Revolver 158 grain ( gr ) Lead Round Nose ( LRN )

http://www.luckygunner.com/bulk-38-spl-ammo-38special158lrnrtg38s5rem-500

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Post by C.Perkins on 5/11/2017, 8:09 pm

Yep;
Federal/American Eagle 158gr LRN is what I used to go distinguished.
I found LRN to be more accurate then SWC.

YMMV
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/11/2017, 8:10 pm

http://www.luckygunner.com/38-special-158-gr-lrn-remington-umc-500-rounds

http://www.luckygunner.com/magtech-38-spl-ammo-for-sale-38special158lrnmt-1000
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Post by JIMPGOV on 5/11/2017, 8:52 pm

IN YOUR GUN ROUND NOSE SHOULD BE MORE ACCURATE. I HAVE FOUND THE REMINGTON TO BE THE MOST ACCURATE (VIA RANSOM REST). JP

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Post by Tim:H11 on 5/11/2017, 9:05 pm

Round nose. I have a S&W M14-3 and I tried factory or commercial bullets and semi wadcutters never worked. Not at 50 yards. Even my own cast semi wadcutters wouldn't work. Switched to round nose and patterns turned to groups. Just my experience.
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Post by james r chapman on 5/11/2017, 9:08 pm

Magtech of  American eagle LRN
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Post by rreid on 5/11/2017, 9:19 pm

I had good results with Zero factory reloads.
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Post by jglenn21 on 5/11/2017, 9:24 pm

My 14-2 love the Remington target.. even the SWC but it has an 11 degree throat in it so that may have an affect..
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Post by Doug Tiedt on 5/11/2017, 9:57 pm

jglenn21 wrote:My 14-2 love the Remington target.. even the SWC but it has an 11 degree throat in it so that may have an affect..

I have an S&W 686, it also preferred the Remington Target.

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Post by kjanracing on 5/12/2017, 7:04 am

I also shoot Zero reloads in my 14/4.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/12/2017, 8:12 am

jglenn21 wrote:My 14-2 love the Remington target.. even the SWC but it has an 11 degree throat in it so that may have an affect..
11 degree throat doesn't sound factory, but I'm no gunsmith
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Post by jglenn21 on 5/12/2017, 8:34 am

no 11 is not factory if memory serves ..  I have an old set of throat reamers  that I got from Brownells years ago for revolvers.. they still sell the kit and pieces.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 5/12/2017, 8:44 am

jglenn21 wrote:no 11 is not factory if memory serves ..  I have an old set of throat reamers  that I got from Brownells years ago for revolvers.. they still sell the kit and pieces.
Hope you haven't been using an inelgibale revolver for DR matches Sad
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Post by jglenn21 on 5/12/2017, 9:04 am

no more a mod than reaming the cylinders..Heck the way I shoot Chris, no one will ever notice.. What a Face .
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Post by LenV on 5/12/2017, 9:28 am

Sometimes bringing them back to factory specs is harder then it should be. This 14-8 is a "Classic" case in point. Throated, reamed, gutted (threw away cast ignition parts) and put on a nice set of grips. It likes Rem or Federal 158gr LRN and shoots nice. My point is after all the work that was done it is still spec. When I sell it the buyer will only know he got a great shooting revolver. Shooting it for Reeves and CF now so perfectly legal for me no matter how you read the regs.

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Post by orpheoet on 5/12/2017, 5:33 pm

Another vote for Federal LRN for 50 yards here. I use 3.3 WST and Zero 158 SWC for the short line. S&W 14-3 and 14-1.
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Post by Rob Kovach on 5/12/2017, 8:23 pm

My 14 like Rem UMC LRN on the long line.  It likes Rem and Federal LRN fine on the short line
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 5/12/2017, 8:41 pm

Picked up some Remington Target 158gr LRN, sounds like that should be a winner, if not, I'll get something else.
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 on 3/10/2018, 6:07 pm

Went out and was able to Ransom Rest (thanks to the benevolence/patience of a friend and league Bullseye shooter) and some continued help from our local friendly forum Gunsmith (Jon) to troubleshoot.
My K-38 (Pre Model 14) results in order from best to worst for my wheel gun.

1) Federal American Eagle 158gr LRN
2) Remington Target 158 gr LRN
3) Winchester Super-X 158 gr LSWC

The Federal was significantly better than Remington.  The Winchester LSWC was terrible.   Shotgun pattern.

I've got an order for Magtech 158gr Lead Round Nose (LRN) and Federal LE 158gr LSWC, and I'll see how that looks in the Ransom. 
If I can find some Zero I'll test that as well, but I'll probably not be ordering any soon unless I need bullets.



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Post by Chris Miceli on 3/10/2018, 6:49 pm

JayhawkNavy02 wrote:Went out and was able to Ransom Rest (thanks to the benevolence/patience of a friend and league Bullseye shooter)
My K-38 (Pre Model 14) results in order from best to worst for my wheel gun.

1) Federal American Eagle 158gr LRN
2) Remington Target 158 gr LRN
3) Winchester Super-X 158 gr LSWC

The Federal was significantly better than Remington.  The Winchester LSWC was terrible.   Shotgun pattern.

I've got an order for Magtech 158gr Lead Round Nose (LRN) and I'll see how that looks in the Ransom. 
If I can find some Zero I'll test that as well, but I'll probably not be ordering any soon unless I need bullets.

I liked the mag tech the most. How did yours group ?
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