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Post by zanemoseley on 5/28/2017, 8:28 pm

I'm still kicking around the idea of buying a Pardini 22/32 combo.

For those that have the Pardini 32ACP how good/bad have your experiences been generating a reliable and accurate load?

I've seen the posts here and on Target Talk with masive loading data which points toward the Hornady 60's as being the easiest accurate load for the pardini.

What I'm hoping for is a scenario where I get some quality Starline brass, Hornady bullets and a pound of Titegroup powder to test with my stash of WST powder and load for 50 yard accuracy, hopefully getting below 2" easily.

Am I dreaming?

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Post by Ghillieman on 5/29/2017, 9:12 am

Not at all. 

Just keep in mind when your loading the .32 that the same tolerances have a much larger detrimental effect on that small cartridge as compared to the 45 Auto.
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Post by carykiteboarder on 5/29/2017, 7:00 pm

I use a Dillon XL650 press. I have no trouble producing accurate and reliable ammo using Starline brass, Hornady XTP 60gr JHP bullets and Winchester Small Pistol Primers.  I have no experience with your powder choices.  VV N310 and Bullseye both meter well for the very small charges required.

For technique, you can't just yank and crank like you do with .45. Keeping things smooth and deliberate is necessary.

I made a number of small tweaks for my Dillon .32ACP toolhead setup. If want them, please indicate you want them I'll make a list.
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Post by oldsalt444 on 5/30/2017, 6:02 pm

Very small charges - 1.3-1.8 gr. can be tricky. The Lee Micro Disk works well for this if you have Lee reloaders.  Be careful of "bridging" when using flake type powders like Bullseye and WST.  This happens with small charges when the flakes form a layer across the top of the tiny cavity. You'll get almost no powder in the case which usually means a bullet in the bore. Some attach a small aquarium air pump with rubber bands to their powder hopper to vibrate and keep the powder settled in the cavity.  

I had a shooter next to me using a Pardini fire ten shots but had 13 holes in the target.  This happened for several 10 shot stages.  No crossfires or overloaded magazines. We figured out that the skirts from the Lapua HBWC lead bullets were getting blown off and thus becoming a dual projectile. His load was 1.8 of Titegroup.  That was a rare case, but an interesting lesson.
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Post by noylj on 5/31/2017, 10:49 am

Isn't it .32 S&W Long wadcutter?
Lots of luck trying to have reloads as accurate as factory
I only had some success with LaPua bullets.
Never shoot over 800 fps with HBWC bullets and 650-725fps is a better goal
Bullet separation is one step from barrel obstruction and a "ringed" barrel

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Post by noylj on 5/31/2017, 10:54 am

TiteGroup bad
50 yard accuracy? Lots of luck with that too
25 meters is about the best it can do--not going to win NRA Precision Pistol matches

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Post by messenger on 5/31/2017, 11:25 am

Never had any luck with Titegroup. N310 worked the best and Bullseye & WST were a close second. Lapua were some of the worst bullets and most expensive I have ever tested. As far as cast Magnus 98gr were the best. I could get them to hold the 10 ring at 50yds. 1.5 N310, 1.6 Bullseye, 1.65 WST worked decent at 50yds. Light roll crimp. Unsized once shot brass also helped. For X ring accuracy H&N 100gr HBWC's are the only way of achieving that. They are extremely hard to get. Cibles Target Canada had them briefly but had to jump through so many hoops to get them he will not do it again. I had a custom .334 diameter Lee sizing die made and you need and oversize .314 Lee powder through expander die. A lot of hoops to jump through to get good results. If I had to do it again I would just shoot my 45 in Center Fire.

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Post by Dr.Don on 5/31/2017, 1:20 pm

You guys are in danger of mixing up 32 SWL and 32 ACP data.  Be careful.  The OP is asking about 32 ACP.
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Post by messenger on 5/31/2017, 2:04 pm

Dr.Don wrote:You guys are in danger of mixing up 32 SWL and 32 ACP data.  Be careful.  The OP is asking about 32 ACP.
I should have been more specific. I was replying to noylj.
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Post by noylj on 5/31/2017, 3:54 pm

I don't know that Pardini makes a .22/.32 in .32 ACP/Auto and "think" the OP meant .32S&W Long.
If .32 Auto, I really doubt 50 yard accuracy.

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Post by messenger on 5/31/2017, 4:15 pm

noylj wrote:I don't know that Pardini makes a .22/.32 in .32 ACP/Auto and "think" the OP meant .32S&W Long.
If .32 Auto, I really doubt 50 yard accuracy.
Actually they have got the 32 ACP down to less than 2". I have heard claims of 1". I'm fixing to find out. I just got a 32 ACP conversion and replaced my 32 S&WL with it.

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Post by fc60 on 5/31/2017, 9:51 pm

Greetings,

My 32 ACP testing...

http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=42516&start=160#p237483

Read the entire post. Lot's of good information. I have posted many test targets.

Cheers,

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Post by Dipnet on 6/5/2017, 8:38 am

The 32 ACP is a delight to shoot and there has been great experimentation with the caliber for the Pardini. You will enjoy it.

The only drawback is it will not improve your shooting skill with the 45. Because of that, I do not use the 32 for 1800 matches but I am quite happy to pull it out for 2700s. Unlike the 32 S&W-L, it is easy to reload and accurate with multiple powders and bullets. Brass availability used to be an issue but not a problem since Starline started making brass. dipnet
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Post by Slartybartfast on 6/5/2017, 9:09 am

messenger wrote:For X ring accuracy H&N 100gr HBWC's are the only way of achieving that. They are extremely hard to get. Cibles Target Canada had them briefly but had to jump through so many hoops to get them he will not do it again.
Totally ignorant about reloading, except for knowing that many of the .32 shooters at my club reload.
But after reading the above, did a search and thought someone might be interested in a link I found:

http://www.airgunsplus.ca/shop/hn-314-match-bullets-500/
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Post by Dipnet on 6/5/2017, 10:19 am

The link is for 32 S&W long (aka 32 WC or 32 wadcutter); not the same caliber as 32 ACP and the two are incompatible. dipnet
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Post by messenger on 6/5/2017, 5:24 pm

Slartybartfast wrote:
messenger wrote:For X ring accuracy H&N 100gr HBWC's are the only way of achieving that. They are extremely hard to get. Cibles Target Canada had them briefly but had to jump through so many hoops to get them he will not do it again.
Totally ignorant about reloading, except for knowing that many of the .32 shooters at my club reload.
But after reading the above, did a search and thought someone might be interested in a link I found:

http://www.airgunsplus.ca/shop/hn-314-match-bullets-500/
You just made some 32 S&W shooters very happy! I still have a little over 3000 and just bought a 32 ACP conversion for my Pardini.

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Post by Slartybartfast on 6/6/2017, 10:44 am

messenger wrote:

You just made some 32 S&W shooters very happy! I still have a little over 3000 and just bought a 32 ACP conversion for my Pardini.

Bill
Happy my random internet search can be helpful to someone. Just searched what was posted as "hard to find" and realised that it isn't the same as the ACP that was being asked about.
Hope I haven't po'd the guys at the club by uncovering some till now hidden supply of their reloading supplies.
That there's .311, .313, .314, .315 just makes me wince at what process is required to determine correct reloading supplies and process.
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Post by Chris Miceli on 6/6/2017, 10:00 pm

Slartybartfast wrote:
messenger wrote:

You just made some 32 S&W shooters very happy! I still have a little over 3000 and just bought a 32 ACP conversion for my Pardini.

Bill
Happy my random internet search can be helpful to someone. Just searched what was posted as "hard to find" and realised that it isn't the same as the ACP that was being asked about.
Hope I haven't po'd the guys at the club by uncovering some till now hidden supply of their reloading supplies.
That there's .311, .313, .314, .315 just makes me wince at what process is required to determine correct reloading supplies and process.
Slug your barrel
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Post by gregbenner on 6/10/2017, 1:56 pm

Slartybartfast wrote:
messenger wrote:For X ring accuracy H&N 100gr HBWC's are the only way of achieving that. They are extremely hard to get. Cibles Target Canada had them briefly but had to jump through so many hoops to get them he will not do it again.
Totally ignorant about reloading, except for knowing that many of the .32 shooters at my club reload.
But after reading the above, did a search and thought someone might be interested in a link I found:

http://www.airgunsplus.ca/shop/hn-314-match-bullets-500/


Thx!  I think I got the last of it:)

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