Sectional results...

...seem to get later every year, don't they?

An NRA official recently told me (via email) that they are still awaiting results from six sectional matches.  It is ridiculous we have to wait 6-9 months for these results.  I hope my match director isn't one of the six.

Talked to Beth today. Should be up next week. 
Tell then, what was the best team score from the match you all were at his year?

Bullseyegear.com, last year's champions, had 1164-31x.

1162-35 for Zero/Lapua. Good shooting BullseyeGear

Thanks, Dave. I thought I saw where Morman posted on Facebook that they had 1167.

Good times! It makes it more fun when the scores are close. I haven't heard any scores from the Phoenix crew and I don't think the AMU shot the sectional this year.

I have been waiting and waiting......

Its been so long ago now but yes, I'm 99% sure we had a 1167.  I do remember that we had a HM average.

Danehogle wrote:Talked to Beth today. Should be up next week. 

Or not...

Don't hold your breath waiting!

I understand that Beth is the only one left in the pistol  division , but damn.

September 8th it is, now...

TargetShooter27 wrote:An NRA official recently told me (via email) that they are still awaiting results from six sectional matches.  It is ridiculous we have to wait 6-9 months for these results.  I hope my match director isn't one of the six.

Man, that's such a long time. 

Must be too busy with the "World" Shooting Championships to trifle with us peons.

...I wonder how many letters they've sent out begging for money in the time they've been unable to post the results for matches which at most hosted a couple hundred guys. The CMP is currently around 4 weeks till their results are posted.

mtlucas0311 wrote:...I wonder how many letters they've sent out begging for money in the time they've been unable to post the results for matches which at most hosted a couple hundred guys. The CMP is currently around 4 weeks till their results are posted.

The 2016 Sectionals had more than 1100 shooters.  Even with that, I believe this is a management issue, not one of being overwhelmed with data.  Sectionals is billed as the NRA's indoor Championship but is treated more like an inconsequential postal match.  If local match directors are the problem, as Beth implied, she needs to determine how best to manage those bad actors instead of making everyone else wait months.  It's been nearly 8-months since I shot in the 2017 Sectionals, pretty soon I'll be receiving notice for the 2018 Sectionals.  This leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

My intent was to imply that their priorities seem to lie elsewhere. Since the guys who organize and run the NRA sanctioned matches are likely the same ones who also handle the CMP matches, and the CMP results are up in around a month, blaming the "bad actors" seems like an excuse to me. But it's all really just conjecture on my part.

mtlucas0311 wrote:My intent was to imply that their priorities seem to lie elsewhere. Since the guys who organize and run the NRA sanctioned matches are likely the same ones who also handle the CMP matches, and the CMP results are up in around a month, blaming the "bad actors" seems like an excuse to me. But it's all really just conjecture on my part.

Around here the folks and clubs that run the Sectionals (indoor 50') are different than the ones who run the CMP matches (outdoor 50 and 25 yards). Most clubs do not have the facilities to host both. Even when I was living in Canton and that was my home club in the '90s, and we had a 50' indoor range and a full 50-yard outdoor range, I do not recall our holding Sectionals there; I seem to remember we always had to travel afield to shoot Sectionals.

That said, I agree 100% that the CMP gets results posted decades faster than the NRA, and it's not likely due to the Match Directors. I had to email the NRA continually for over a year to get my entry into the 2650 Club recognized.

From http://www.competitions.nra.org/championship-results/nra-national-indoor-rifle-pistol-championships-results.aspx:

"The NRA National Indoor Rifle & Pistol Championships are compiled from separate Sectional Tournaments fired throughout the country from Jan. 1 through March 18 for Open Sectionals, Jan. 1 through Feb. 12 for Collegiate Sectionals, and Jan. 1 through Apr. 15 for Junior Sectionals. Results of these championships will be available in May or June."

Note that it does not say of which year.

Why of why, in this day and age, aren't results available as soon as they're entered on-line?

After a short grace period, all results could be live with "provisional" indicated and access to a list of missing results.

Investigating the state of affairs with the "big guys" for the thread on PistolCompetition.com , and now there's shootingbuzz.com, I was gobsmacked to see that the NRA match schedule was a PDF/published affair and not an online database that can be filtered and searched.

The big guys need to use the talent of the competition enthusiasts that have web experience and good ideas to drag their communications into the current century.

Sectional results have been updated with a lot more CALIFORNIA than when they were first released.

http://www.competitions.nra.org/championship-results/nra-national-indoor-rifle-pistol-championships-results.aspx

john bickar wrote:Sectional results have been updated with a lot more CALIFORNIA than when they were first released.

You guys know this wasn't an election, right 

john bickar wrote:Sectional results have been updated with a lot more CALIFORNIA than when they were first released.

http://www.competitions.nra.org/championship-results/nra-national-indoor-rifle-pistol-championships-results.aspx

At least it didn't take them 5 more months to update results after the challenge period.

TargetShooter27 wrote:

john bickar wrote:Sectional results have been updated with a lot more CALIFORNIA than when they were first released.

You guys know this wasn't an election, right 

Yes: unlike elections in California, my participation in the Sectionals actually counts.

I have to credit Beth Martin at the NRA: my match director's results (literally) got lost in the mail, and she was able to reconcile things and get our scores included. As he said, "What a GREAT LADY!!!"

We didn't set the world on fire but it's nice to be a part.

Edit: Also, I apparently hold a classification in NRA Standard Pistol that does not exist. That made it easy to take first in my class.