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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/30/2017, 8:37 am

Called the ammo plant in AR... was told they won't be selling the projectile, just the loaded ammo.
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Post by fc60 on 8/30/2017, 12:16 pm

Greetings,

Interesting...

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601192625/remington-match-bullets-38-caliber-360-diameter-148-grain-lead-hollow-base-wadcutter

Looks like MidwayUSA has more "pull" than us little people.

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Post by cdrt on 8/30/2017, 12:32 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings,
Interesting...
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601192625/remington-match-bullets-38-caliber-360-diameter-148-grain-lead-hollow-base-wadcutter
Looks like MidwayUSA has more "pull" than us little people.
Cheers,

Dave
They are out of stock, no backorder and have been for quite some time.
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Post by james r chapman on 8/30/2017, 1:07 pm

Actually, they had many within the last few weeks, but, it wouldn't surprise me,
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Post by dronning on 8/30/2017, 2:32 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:Called the ammo plant in AR... was told they won't be selling the projectile, just the loaded ammo.
I'll use up my Precision Delta before the Remingtons I have left. Based on the amount I'm shooting any of my 38 Specials I have a lifetime supply of the PD's!
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Post by fc60 on 8/30/2017, 5:41 pm

Greetings,

I just clicked on the link above for MidwayUSA.

Select 2000 and they are "out of stock, backorder OK".

Hopefully Remington did not weasel out of MidwayUSA's order.

I have some prepaid waiting for arrival.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 8/30/2017, 7:01 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings,

I just clicked on the link above for MidwayUSA.

Select 2000 and they are "out of stock, backorder OK".

Hopefully Remington did not weasel out of MidwayUSA's order.

I have some prepaid waiting for arrival.

Cheers,

Dave
A local has some for sale, waiting on quantity and price. I could send you some, packed better than the last batch Smile
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I posted this back in March

Post by C.Perkins on 8/30/2017, 7:54 pm

 Re: Remington 148 gr hbwc

 by C.Perkins on Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:53 pm

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Also just fired off an email to Remington about there production of the HBWC's and their match ammo that they loaded those in.
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Received a reply today from Remington.

They have stopped production of the 148gr LHBWC and the match ammo that they loaded them in.

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Post by troystaten on 8/30/2017, 11:09 pm

That's too bad about this ammo not being run anymore.  When people at the range try my revolver shooting this type of ammo they are amazed at the nice clean holes and how nicely it shoots.

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Post by james r chapman on 8/31/2017, 4:35 am

Remington has slowly been getting out of the components business for years.
Clay targets, STS lead shot, STS primers are hard to find, was now bullets.
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Re: Remington 148 HBWC

Post by fc60 on 8/31/2017, 2:45 pm

Greetings,

Sad news on the Remington HBWC bullets.

Same thing happened with H&N 32 bullets. The German laws for export make them essentially impossible to import into Canada or the USA.

So, I made a swaging die set to duplicate the H&N bullet. Thus far, it works well.

I have also machined a swaging die set that copies the Remington HBWC profile. Now, I just need to find time to cast up some slugs for swaging. Too many other projects....

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Post by Black_Talon on 8/31/2017, 8:49 pm

Just happened to find a 2017 Remington Full Line Catalog and 148gr HBWC loaded ammo is not listed at all. Closest is 158gr RN.
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Post by robert84010 on 9/1/2017, 9:58 am

I just found out that my backorder is processing and shipping.

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Post by troystaten on 9/1/2017, 3:58 pm

It will be interesting to see if Remington keeps these bullets available, we seem to be hearing all kinds of answers about them.  I think if the demand is there Remington is likely to make them.


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Post by dronning on 9/1/2017, 4:52 pm

troystaten wrote:It will be interesting to see if Remington keeps these bullets available, we seem to be hearing all kinds of answers about them.  I think if the demand is there Remington is likely different.

It's possible MUSA made a deal with Remington that if they get X# of back orders they would be allowed to place a special order with Remington.  Hope so anyway.
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Post by Multiracer on 9/1/2017, 4:57 pm

I think I was one of the last to get a backorder accepted. I tried again later and it would not accept another order for any amount.
But.....my original order shipped today Yaaay !

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Post by KB2MBC on 9/1/2017, 7:28 pm

robert84010 wrote:I just found out that my backorder is processing and shipping.

Mine as well!

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Post by fc60 on 9/1/2017, 7:36 pm

Greetings,

MidwayUSA has a lot of buying power.

Not long ago, they brought back a "Limited Run" of Speer 98 HBWC for us 32 fans.

The price was set for quick sale and return on investment.

MidwayUSA currently lists the 98 HBWC as "discontinued".

Anyway, my Reminton HBWC are now on the UPS truck.

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Post by dronning on 9/1/2017, 7:44 pm

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dronning wrote:
troystaten wrote:It will be interesting to see if Remington keeps these bullets available, we seem to be hearing all kinds of answers about them.  I think if the demand is there Remington is likely different.

It's possible MUSA made a deal with Remington that if they get X# of back orders they would be allowed to place a special order with Remington.  Hope so anyway.
- Dave

That would have happened entirely too quickly for Remington to tool up, deliver some future contract, and then hope more demand was in the future. This isn't how the manufacturing business generally works (or, at least, most successful ones). MUSA could have forecasted some amount of demand from their own internal search results- totally possible on that count- and put in enough of an order to make it happen.

It's much more likely that Big Green, due to the soft firearms/ammo market as a result of the election, has to make good on their futures contracts for lead deliveries and is searching for any place to make that lead into something they can sell. I should have asked what the rest of the backlog contained- but I'd be very surprised if we didn't see more "ancient artifacts" coming up- from all the manufacturers (although, WW is no longer in the brass business directly, so that part of their "business" might be a margin/cash flow thing for them).

-Chase

Chase, your making a big assumption that Remington has no small batch capability, which many manufacturers have for their testing, emergency or (service) orders, etc..  Were talking volumes where Rem. would not be committing to additional raw material orders or tie up major production capacity.  MUSA would be taking all the risk because they would have to assume all back orders are still wanted, but they would be committing to Rem.  If it took too long to reach the point where MUSA would have enough BO's to place an order with Rem., they could just cancel all the BO's and be done with it, or take the risk that their order to Rem. would eventually sell.  The question is, at what price point.
100 orders of 2,000 148gr bullets ea = just over 4K lb of lead, that's only about 4 pallets, not enough to burn off any lead inventory. 
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Post by troystaten on 9/1/2017, 7:59 pm

My brain and typing where not connected, I was trying to say while we might think a certain amount of sales of this product is a lot Remington's idea of a high enough demand is most likely different.

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Post by USSR on 9/1/2017, 9:05 pm

Multiracer wrote:I think I was one of the last to get a backorder accepted. I tried again later and it would not accept another order for any amount.
But.....my original order shipped today Yaaay !

I placed a backorder today at about 4 pm and it was accepted.   We shall see how this all plays out.

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