Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

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Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Bullseye99 on 9/4/2017, 3:11 am

I have a huge dilemma which high end pistol to get for the Bullseye competitions. I have long beeen admiring the long time tried and tested Hammerli 208 and it's pedigree of winning tradition and reliability. However, it is long out of production and has been replaced and updated by Hammerli itself, until it went out of business.

Walther SSP (current production series) utilizes totally  new technology and is currently being produced. I know that early versions have had their reliability issues, which have all been fixed, the many parts it utilizes and the rather complex take down procedure. I am not concerned with that. It is and engineering marvel and Walther put a lot of time, effort and money to make it as advanced and up-to-date as possible.

Living in New York, whhich conseders any gun with a magazine forward of the trigger as an "assault weapon" according to the "Safe Act" (what a load of crap!), and is therefore illegal. So Pardini, Morini, etc. is out of the question.

Would the fellow Bullseye enthusiasts please chime in with suggestions, experience and opinions.

Thank you, in advance, for your input.

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Chris Miceli on 9/4/2017, 5:24 am

If you go the 208 route get the 2 stage trigger version that gives adjustment of the trigger position fore and aft. Larry's Guns services Hammerli pistols. 

Never seen a SSP on the line but i'm sure someone has one out there.
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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by tceva on 9/4/2017, 5:35 am

Doesn't the SSP have a forward Magazine?
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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Chris Miceli on 9/4/2017, 5:46 am

tceva wrote:Doesn't the SSP have a forward Magazine?
Top loader right at/behind the trigger.
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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Wile E Coyote on 9/4/2017, 6:12 am

The Hammerli has the advantage of being a more traditional layout, grip angle. It will be easier to transition to the CF/45 parts of a 2700.

I'm also not sure all the bugs have been sorted. I shoot with someone who has been having doubling issues after returning the gun to Walther and months of trigger adjustments. I believe Walther even changed the trigger group with no success.

You can also have the AW93 in NYS.

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by JKR on 9/4/2017, 7:11 am

I have no experience with the SSP but I did shoot a FAS 602 for a number of years. The FAS also loads from the top. It was a wonderful iron sight gun and I suspect the Walther may also be. The problem is mounting a scope. I ended up putting a small dot sight ahead of the port but it caused such a change in the way the pistol felt that I never liked it. I sold the 602 to a friend but now regret it as it would be awesome for the 22 EIC matches.

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Bullseye99 on 9/4/2017, 8:01 am

AW93 is also an option, but I was leaning toward Walter and Hammerli.

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by 1joel1 on 9/4/2017, 11:48 am

I have both pistols, well, the 215s. The Hammerli has a phenomenal trigger, the "s" version is 2 stage, but the SSP is also very good. The recoil characteristics on the SSP are unlike anything I have shot. The pistol just stays exactly on line. The Walther does not stay open on the last shot whereas the Hammerli does. This is good and bad, but shouldn't be a deal breaker. Both are very dependable and not ammo picky at all. Would be best for you to try them out, but I know that can be difficult. I was unable to do so, so I just bought one of each. I like them both so will likely keep both, but if you decide to resell, you should get most of your money back. The Walther might be easier to get repaired depending where you live. The Hammerli is a more traditional pistol and the grip angle is more upright.

I have owned an AW93. Good pistol, but I like the others quite a bit more.

Good Luck,

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by Bullseye99 on 9/4/2017, 2:58 pm

Thank you for all suggestions!

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Re: Hammerli 208 or Walther SSP?

Post by rich.tullo on 9/5/2017, 8:04 pm

I have a friend that has an SSP that doubles like crazy but I suspect its user adjustment error or too much lube on the trigger group. With any gun like that I would set the trigger at #3.25 and take it down 1/4 lbs at a time to get the optimal weight. Yer Yev says too light a trigger is not good for pistol shooting so.....

GSP is popular and I would not discount that gun for BE. I have not shot the SSP but GSPs seem a little nose heavy for me and the factory grips do not fit me right. The upside is there are plenty of GSPs around and can be had for under $1000. 

The only guns I like better than a good 1911 conversion with a good trigger is the 208 and the AW93 and I like the AW better. Just my opinion. In competitions at my level nothing out shoots my guns (Nelsons) on the long line. I think the above mentioned guns do buy you some points in rapid fire. But they are all 900 capable.
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