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Post by Multiracer on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:48 pm

backordered Remington 148G HBWC ?
I have and these things look like they have been run over by a truck.
The center round protrusion is higher than the circular lip around the edge (which is all dented and banged) so now they seat off of a ball ?
The bodies are tapered, the bottom measures close to .360" alien the top is a variable but always undersized.
The goop and dirt and crud on them is not good for loading equipment or your gun barrel.
After some cleaning and adjustments to my machine I loaded some up. 
We shall see compared to a nice crisp well manufactured zero.   Crying or Very sad Sad  Surprised


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Post by fc60 on Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:32 pm

Greetings,

Yes, I just received my Remington HBWC yesterday.

The goop you refer to is the lubricant. It does a good job of shooting clean with minimal leading. It does, however, dirty up the press a bit.

The taper on the bullets is caused by the knurling process. Since they shoot X-ring at 50 yards, I never bothered to measure them.

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Post by C.Perkins on Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:05 pm

I would assume that you have never purchased Remington 148gr HBWC's ?
That is the way they are.
You should have a seating plug that only contacts the shoulder if loading full wadcutters.
They may be ugly but they shoot.
Enjoy.
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Post by robert84010 on Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:33 pm

Multiracer wrote:backordered Remington 148G HBWC ?
I have and these things look like they have been run over by a truck.
The center round protrusion is higher than the circular lip around the edge (which is all dented and banged) so now they seat off of a ball ?
The bodies are tapered, the bottom measures close to .160" the top is a variable but always undersized.
The goop and dirt and crud on them is not good for loading equipment or your gun barrel.
After some cleaning and adjustments to my machine I loaded some up. 
We shall see compared to a nice crisp well manufactured zero.   Crying or Very sad Sad  Surprised
measuring out at .160" they will probably not do well in a .357" bore. send them to me. mine measured at .361" at the middle. mine shoot great in a PPC open barrel. old 10 groove Apex, 14 twist I think?

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Post by Multiracer on Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:51 pm

C.Perkins wrote:I would assume that you have never purchased Remington 148gr HBWC's ?
That is the way they are.
You should have a seating plug that only contacts the shoulder if loading full wadcutters.
They may be ugly but they shoot.
Enjoy.
My Star has a seating die that should seat on the shoulder. That is until the bulge in the center of the shoulder ring is taller than the shoulder ring ?

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Post by Multiracer on Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:53 pm

robert84010 wrote:
Multiracer wrote:backordered Remington 148G HBWC ?
I have and these things look like they have been run over by a truck.
The center round protrusion is higher than the circular lip around the edge (which is all dented and banged) so now they seat off of a ball ?
The bodies are tapered, the bottom measures close to .160" the top is a variable but always undersized.
The goop and dirt and crud on them is not good for loading equipment or your gun barrel.
After some cleaning and adjustments to my machine I loaded some up. 
We shall see compared to a nice crisp well manufactured zero.   Crying or Very sad Sad  Surprised
measuring out at .160" they will probably not do well in a .357" bore. send them to me. mine measured at .361" at the middle. mine shoot great in a PPC open barrel. old 10 groove Apex, 14 twist I think?
I fixed my numerical error in type.  alien

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Post by robert84010 on Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:58 pm

you can still send them to me!

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Post by NuJudge on Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:52 pm

I am still backordered.

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Post by USSR on Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:07 pm

NuJudge wrote:I am still backordered.

As am I.   Of course, I just ordered them last week.

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Post by messenger on Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:45 am

I received mine after about 4-5 weeks. I ordered another 2000.

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Post by noylj on Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:13 am

Where did you order them? I only find them at MidwayUSA and they were marked something like "no back orders" and I didn't get any announcement that they were in.

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Post by fc60 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:12 am

Greetings,

I also load with the Star machine.

I removed the seating/crimping die and replaced it with a piece of threaded Delrin with a small dimple on the seating end. (The dimple clears the center of the bullet nose protrusion.)

With a case is position, I screw the Delrin plug down until it touches the case mouth.

During the loading process, the Remington HBWC is inserted about half-way into the charged case. Then I complete the loading cycle.

As the face of the Delrin gets dirty from the bullet lube, I merely wipe it clean with a paper shop towel. This takes place about every 50 rounds.

The Remington bullets are very messy to handle; however, the accuracy makes it worthwhile.

Cheers,

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Post by USSR on Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:45 am

noylj wrote:Where did you order them? I only find them at MidwayUSA and they were marked something like "no back orders" and I didn't get any announcement that they were in.

You have to select 2000 for the quantity to get "Backorder Okay".   If you select a quantity of 100, it says "no back orders".

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Post by Multiracer on Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:11 pm

I removed the seating/crimping die and replaced it with a piece of threaded Delrin with a small dimple on the seating end. (The dimple clears the center of the bullet nose protrusion.)


You must crimp as a separate operation ?

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Post by USSR on Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:35 pm

For precision loads with lead wadcutters, you should always crimp as a separate operation.   Seating a bullet while you are squeezing the case around it does not do good things to the bullet.

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Post by fc60 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:40 pm

Greetings,

With the Star machine, I either roll or taper crimp at the last station. I prefer taper for longer case life.

Then, I take the box of loaded rounds and run them through the Lee Factory Carbide Crimp Die in a single stage press. This resizes the brass so it will chamber and not damage the bullet within.

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Post by robert84010 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:26 pm

Dave,
Have you used the Lee FCD on .32SWL rounds? I don't think I have ever seen you mention using one before.

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Post by fc60 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:35 pm

Greetings,

No, I do not use the Factory Crimp die on 32 WadCutter ammo.

I size the brass to suit the diameter of the bullet being loaded.

Example...

Loading a 0.314" bullet in Lapua brass, I first size the brass to 0.334" and flare only, no expander plug needed.

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