Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

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Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

Post by mikemyers on 9/21/2017, 7:11 pm

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I've had my LB Premiere II for a couple of years now. It's always been difficult to re-assemble, as it was always hard to get the slide stop pin where it belongs.

I took the gun apart today for cleaning, and re-assembled it the way people in the forums have suggested, with the gun fully assembled, then sliding the slide stop pin into place. It "almost" worked, but when the pin "clicked" into place, it was still over 1/8" away from the gun. I tried this over and over, and watched this video to be sure I wasn't missing something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhPari7dpc

No matter what I did, I couldn't get the slide stop to go all the way in. I figured it might have been me struggling to hold all the parts properly aligned, so I took it all apart and tried to assemble the gun the old way with the spring "loose". Once the pin was in, I was going to lock the bushing in place. No go. Same problem. The slide stop only goes so far into the gun.

To make this a bit easier to do, I've always had to use a Pachmayr "Widget" to depress the locking ball just slightly, so it would allow the pin to go into place when I pushed it up and in.

I've probably done this a dozen times tonight. I've been SO tempted to use a plastic hammer to tap on it, but that shouldn't be necessary.

I know the round pin goes in and out of the gun effortlessly, and it goes all the way in when the arm is hanging downwards, so that's not the problem. The other end of the slide stop has a funny mark/scratch on it, which probably is a clue to what's going wrong. I took a photo, will post here. I guess tomorrow I need to call Les Baer, unless someone here has a good suggestion...

Also - is this a custom made part, or can I just order a replacement?



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Re: Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

Post by mikemyers on 10/3/2017, 4:00 pm

There are also some good ideas here, including polishing the parts involved:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/The_andamp_quot_log_man__modificationandamp_quot__on_your_slide_stop/49-104426/

I plan to do one of these - or just take the slide stop to a gunsmith...   or study it for a while until I'm certain of what to do, and where to do it.
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Post by STEVE SAMELAK on 10/3/2017, 4:49 pm

To help with learning the secret handshake you could try practicing without having the recoil spring in the gun to remove one item to coordinate.
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Post by mikemyers on 10/3/2017, 6:45 pm

Secret handshake!!!   Beautiful!!!!

What you wrote, is what I did, and once I learned it, things got SO much easier.  
I'll have to remember that line!   :-)
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Post by teg2658 on 10/3/2017, 9:14 pm

Buy about 3 or so Widget tools from Midway, you will pay only one shipping charge and have spares. I did about 15 years ago and wish I had 40 years ago.
Tom Ginovsky In Western NY

If you need to be shown how to use the Widget I could show you how to use it in Feb.

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Re: Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

Post by mikemyers on 10/3/2017, 10:29 pm

I'd love to see how you do it.  I found one way, and while it works, maybe there are better ways.  I just put the thin part of the blade against the plunger, and push it in a bit, then while it is pushed in, move the slide stop up just enough to hold it in.  Then, with two thumbs pushing what I think is normally, the slide stop snaps right in.

Yep, I did buy more than one, and gave away all but one.  I should get a few more.

(Until I did all this, I didn't really understand what was happening, and why it wasn't working.  Once it all made sense to me, it was easier to do it.)
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Re: Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

Post by tceva on 10/4/2017, 5:06 am

Mike,
Just got a pistol back from Clark Guns, and it was like I have never taken one apart before.  They did a nice job on it considering I didn't give them much to work with.  The barrel, bushing and slide fit are real nice, but fairly difficult to get apart and back together.  I guess the looseness in my other guns equates to easier disassembly.  
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Post by mikemyers on 10/4/2017, 6:09 am

Alex, did you try to get the slide stop in place with none of the other parts assembled, just the slide and receiver?  That's the only "Secret Handshake" I know.

Does the slide stop go in and out easily while it is rotated straight down so you're not dealing with the plunger at all?

(I'm probably not the best person to ask - maybe someone else here, or at Clark's, can give you a good suggestion.)
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Post by tceva on 10/4/2017, 6:53 am

No problem with the slide stop.  Just need to hold my mouth right.
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Re: Problem with slide stop when re-assembling a Les Baer Premiere II

Post by Jack H on 10/4/2017, 12:02 pm

I have had no problems with either of these steps:
Shorten or reshape the end of the plunger.
File a slope on the stop to let the plunger slide by.

On one of my lowers I did indeed find a shorter plunger for 22 use and the longer plunger goes back for 45 use.  I don't change it very often

I have also read of using a long slender drill bit through the plunger tube to locate and make a better indent for the plunger in the stop's down position.  Tapering out of the indent might be needed.
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