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Post by xmastershooter on 11/30/2017, 9:55 am

Need recommendations. Thanks!

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Post by Aprilian on 11/30/2017, 10:17 am

I bought the Peltor Sport tactical 500 in May and like them.   I wear plugs under them and can still raise the electronic volume to hear conversations.  They have bluetooth, I mow the grass with them while listening to music from my phone and have even taken a phone call on them (the other person said my voice was clear).  The cups seal well over glasses frames.

My one disappointment is the reverb software for indoor ranges doesn't work as well as I had hoped (and they had advertised).
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Post by jmdavis on 11/30/2017, 10:32 am

You are wearing plugs as well, right?

I have used the Howard Leight Impact Pro and the Peltor Sport. They both work. But the Howard Leight broke after a few months and required me to jury rig a fix. I have had the Peltor since 2010. 

All of that being said, I don't wear either these days. I bought a set of David Clark 19A passive muffs. Yes, it's not always easy to hear, particularly soft talkers, but I know that I am protecting my hearing as well as I can. I also wear fitted plugs from CeCa at Camp Perry (the kind with filters) with the 19A's.  

If I were going to wear the electronic muffs regularly. I would probably go with the Peltor. The issue is that glasses frames will lead to some inefficiency. But they provide good protection, last a long time, and are dependable. 

That's all I know at this point.
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Post by SonOfAGun on 11/30/2017, 7:07 pm

Good topic. I've been researching the Howard Leight compared to the Walker's Game Ear Razor Slim. Both on Amazon at similar street price, within $5 of each other. Some reviews by users that have owned both give the nod to the Walker's. Hope to get more first hand comparisons.
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Post by Multiracer on 11/30/2017, 7:17 pm

I use these, in less than one year the foam is breaking down and becoming compressed inside the vinyl muff ear ring.
They still operate I just feel the end is near for the foam.

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Post by Wile E Coyote on 11/30/2017, 7:42 pm

The best I've found is the Peltor Tactical Pro. NRR 26 dB. What I like most beside the high level of attenuation, is that they don't completely mute the sound when a loud sound is detected. They just lower the level of the sound. What I like least is the price, but it's like optics; you get what you pay for.

I also have the gel sealing rings which help create a better seal when wearing glasses.

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Post by Eddie 500 on 11/30/2017, 8:58 pm

I have a pair of MSA Supreme. At outdoor ranges you can hear the wind blow but still cancels out the bang of the pistol/rifle. In a small indoor range the report of the gun blast is more pronounced. I like em overall but they are pricey at $295 American.

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Post by xmastershooter on 12/1/2017, 1:09 am

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm starting to do RSO duty for my club and cost would not be a factor for good electronic hearing protection.  I just don't want to buy several just to try out.  More replies would be greatly appreciated.  Thank again!

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Post by joem5636 on 12/1/2017, 6:28 am

I have an ancient pair of MSA Sordins that work wonderfully. Only problem has been batteries -- I replaced the original with a Radio Shack and just keep going.

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Post by BE Mike on 12/1/2017, 7:47 am

I have a couple of pair of Howard Leight Impact Sport ear protectors. They are my first venture into e-muffs. They have an NRR of 22. They are hard to beat for (shop around) $35.00. I use ear plugs under them. They take AAA batteries that seem to have a decent life. Since you said money was no object, I'd look at the Pro Ears TAC Slim Gold. They have an NRR of 28 and auto shut off. I looked hard at them before I went with the more affordable Howard Leight Impact Sport ear protectors. The MSA Sordin have some good reviews, but with an NRR of only 18, I think they are overpriced. The more expensive e-muffs seem to allow the wearer to have some directional sensing. I don't see that need in a range environment. It would prove useful in a combat or hunting environment.
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Post by Jack H on 12/1/2017, 11:24 am

I do not know the quality involved but I would check and avoid hearing muffs that use odd size batteries.   AAA only for me.
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Post by Magload on 12/1/2017, 2:37 pm

Well I bought a set of EtyMotic GunSport Pro.   Spent a good deal on them but I am not real pleased with them.  I still have to put my Howard Leight over them depending what other people are shooting indoors.  When someone is shooting a 308 that doesn't help a lot. Don
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Post by xmastershooter on 12/1/2017, 4:20 pm

jimdavis wrote:All of that being said, I don't wear either these days. I bought a set of David Clark 19A passive muffs. Yes, it's not always easy to hear, particularly soft talkers, but I know that I am protecting my hearing as well as I can. I also wear fitted plugs from CeCa at Camp Perry (the kind with filters) with the 19A's
Hi Jim, what are the odds??? Presently, I also use David Clark muffs along with CeCa fitted plugs.  Foam plugs seal the best but are a hassle to remove in order to hear and then put back in.  I believe the Clarks are used in the military.  What are "filters" with the fitted plugs?

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Post by KenO on 12/1/2017, 6:02 pm

"Foam plugs seal the best but are a hassle to remove in order to hear and then put back in"

There are foam plugs that you don't have to roll, just push in, and pull to take out. I love these under my muffs, and they are 31NRR.

https://www.earplugstore.com/e-a-r-push-ins-softouch-earplugs-bx.html   You can get them anywhere, that was the first that came up on my search. I don't remember where I got mine, but the price really varies, so shop around.

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Post by xmastershooter on 12/2/2017, 10:44 am

Thanks KenO

Found this new product in SSUSA.  Any comments or experience using it?

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/10/30/review-3m-peltor-tep-100-tactical-electronic-ambient-listening-earplugs/

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Post by john bickar on 12/7/2017, 10:18 pm

Hi Norman,

I recently bought the Peltor RangeGuard and wore them last night while serving as range master for league. It was an interesting experience.

I had hoped that the muffs themselves would attenuate gunshots when the amplification was turned on but they do not, not sufficiently even for .22. I found that it was best to wear them over earplugs and turn the amplification off during active firing periods and then turn it on when I needed to hear things but there was still a chance of live fire (e.g., towards the end of firing periods).
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Post by willnewton on 12/8/2017, 6:18 am

My Howard Leight Impact Pro electronic muffs are OK under some circumstances.

  I find that part of the gunshot is amplified for the briefest time, resulting in very mild ringing during shooting witha group of folks, even though it does not sound loud in my ear.  I get zero ear ringing when they are turned off.  I think the combo of multiple nearby gunshots and a partial amplification through the muffs is enough to just hit the the threshold to cause ringing.

I think you should wear plugs if using these muffs electronically all the time.

They are well padded, with a NRR of 30.  I do not wear plugs under them for target pistol shooting, as they work very well when not turned on. They also fit well, so I have not tried replacing them.  They work well when turned on too, if I need to listen to a buddy talk on the range, but I rarely activate them otherwise.

If there is a bonus that I like, it is being able to listen to BE range command intros played from my phone without disturbing others.
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Post by JIMPGOV on 12/8/2017, 6:29 am

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Post by mikemyers on 12/8/2017, 7:22 am

Suggestion:

Go to this page, and start selecting:  http://www.howardleight.com/selector

If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.

I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
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Post by UtahDave on 12/8/2017, 8:47 am

Yep! these work very well.  I'm an RO and I don't need ear plugs with them but I do avoid standing near the 7mm Mags with muzzle brakes. I have several other brands and they don't get used.

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Post by kc.crawford.7 on 12/9/2017, 7:43 am

mikemyers wrote:Suggestion:

Go to this page, and start selecting:  http://www.howardleight.com/selector

If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.

I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
+1  I want the highest NRR I can get.  These are very comfortable and the electronics work very well.
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Post by CR10X on 12/9/2017, 7:53 am

And I wear muffs and ear plugs every time!  Even for .22.  I'd rather miss hearing something than miss hearing anything.   

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Post by Mac2 on 12/9/2017, 11:31 am

Wife and I each use Peltor 300.  One began to eat standard batteries and 3M sent us mailing label to return for refund.  . . . and then replaced with same from Amazon.  Other one is still on first set of batteries.  I use foam ear plugs in addition to Peltor 300.  300 is easy to deal with, but indoors I need a bit more attenuation.  Down-side is expense.

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Post by joy2shoot on 12/9/2017, 4:45 pm

CR10X wrote:And I wear muffs and ear plugs every time!  Even for .22.  I'd rather miss hearing something than miss hearing anything.   

CR

+1.  Also, for me, I look for audio input.  This allows me to play the match commands (...ready on the firing line....) during sustained fire practice.  I currently have Pro Gold which I would not recommend.  I intend to replace them with the Peltor Sport Tactical 100 and replace the foam ear pads with the gel ear pads.  I have a non-electronic Peltor with the gel ear pads and the gel covers more of my ear and is better sealing.

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Post by DA/SA on 12/9/2017, 5:47 pm

mikemyers wrote:Suggestion:

Go to this page, and start selecting:  http://www.howardleight.com/selector

If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.

I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
I have these and they are for sure pretty quiet.

I also have a set of Walkers and the Walkers have considerably more amplification than the HL,s.

I use foam ear plugs with them and can barely hear anything with the HL's volume all the way up, but hear voice commands much better when using the Walkers.

Another thing is that wearing foam ear plugs as well made a difference in my shooting. Someone shooting next to me used to sometimes disturb me, but with ear plugs and headsets on I no longer even notice that anyone is there.

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