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Post by JKR on 12/16/2017, 8:01 am

I'm thinking of a combo rib for my old Marvel to use as an EIC/back up gun. Would like something heavier than aluminum and have heard rumors of brass and steel ones being made. 

Does anyone have or know of one of these? 

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Post by Chris Miceli on 12/16/2017, 8:36 am

Contact rock river arms I believe they make it in steel Jim. It’s not listed on the website. The brass one I saw was a one off
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Post by jglenn21 on 12/16/2017, 9:30 am

Chris is right (did I say that).

I have an aluminum slide marvel that was just too light so the steel RRA rib fixed it perfectly.. you have to call them.. not listed on their site
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Post by kc.crawford.7 on 12/16/2017, 11:30 am

Actually it is listed on the sight. It's the Bullseye rib.  Part # PS1396
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Post by willnewton on 12/16/2017, 4:55 pm

KC, are you sure about that part number? The picture for that part number pulls up the steel combo rib for a 1911, not the Marvel .22 conversion.  I have both items and here is a picture.  Looks like it might need a serious gunsmith fittin' to me!

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Post by kc.crawford.7 on 12/16/2017, 4:59 pm

I didn't read closely enough.  That is the bullseye rib for a 1911, NOT a MARVEL conversion.  Sorry my bust.
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Post by willnewton on 12/16/2017, 5:08 pm

KC, I bet you have been working hard running Santa's pistolsmith shop and missed it in your hurry to help out.

Speaking of being nice, thanks for the Christmas card from the Maysville HQ!
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Post by Jack H on 12/16/2017, 6:15 pm

If OP is meaning Marvel 22 top, there is this option



CPC did the 22 grooves on my rib. 

Now that Marvel rib sits on a Nelson after a little easy modification
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Post by John Dervis on 12/16/2017, 10:31 pm

Marvel Precision does make a combo rib in brass. I just bought one last spring.  You can buy it with or without the sights if you want to take them off a standard aluminum rib that you might already own.  Fwiw, they also have a non combo iron sight rib in brass.  They told me they weighed the same so I took the combo version.  Rock River also has their rib available in steel so you have that option as well.  Give either or them a call and you can get what you need.

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Post by JKR on 12/17/2017, 10:04 am

Thanks everyone for the responses. I was contacted by Dennis at Marvel Precision regarding theirs. I'll call Rock River tomorrow as well. Look like I have options.

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Post by JKR on 12/19/2017, 8:42 am

Just to let everyone know. Rock River does not make a combo rib for Marvel conversions. I talked to them yesterday. They only make a steel scope rib.

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Post by wizzer on 12/19/2017, 12:36 pm

Did Dennis at Marvel give you a price and availability on the rib?

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Post by JKR on 12/19/2017, 3:47 pm

He did. The price is $165. plus shipping.
I now have a standard aluminum scope rail for sale if anyone needs one.

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Post by wizzer on 12/19/2017, 5:25 pm

Jim--incomming PM

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Post by Amanda4461 on 12/23/2017, 5:04 am

Folks-
Will the Marvel Steel Rib fit a Nelson Upper correctly with regard to the screw holes and the locating pin positions? I would like a steel rib, but Larry doesn't make them. If they fit, best place to buy one?
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Post by Chris Miceli on 12/23/2017, 5:12 am

Amanda4461 wrote:Folks-
Will the Marvel Steel Rib fit a Nelson Upper correctly with regard to the screw holes and the locating pin positions? I would like a steel rib, but Larry doesn't make them. If they fit, best place to buy one?
Thanks!
The nelson rib is steel, are you asking larry to make a steel rib for a marvel ?
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Post by Amanda4461 on 12/23/2017, 5:18 am

Please excuse my idiocy. I was hoping for a heavy steel rib. The Nelson rib is so light I thought it was aluminum. Too early in the morning thanks to my Dobermans waking me up.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 12/23/2017, 5:52 am

Amanda4461 wrote:Please excuse my idiocy. I was hoping for a heavy steel rib. The Nelson rib is so light I thought it was aluminum. Too early in the morning thanks to my Dobermans waking me up.

larry sells blank ribs  https://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=60

If you order one over the phone and let larry know which cross slots you want he can accommodate. I don't remember if he charged me or not.
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Post by Bullseye_Stan on 12/23/2017, 6:03 am

It would be good to know how much a Marvel combination rib weighs.  Nelson custom guns sells a separate steel iron sights rib and a steel scope mount rib(s) - not a combination rib.  I am interested in the Marvel combination rib, which seems to be the topic of this thread.  I expect some modification of the Marvel combination rib will be needed if fitted to any conversion other than a Marvel.  Knowing some basic information about the Marvel combination rib (like, how much it weights, it's length, and if it is made of steel) would be very useful in a decision to buy such a rib and adapt it for use on a conversion other than a Marvel.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 12/23/2017, 6:14 am

Bullseye_Stan wrote:It would be good to know how much a Marvel combination rib weighs.  Nelson custom guns sells a separate steel iron sights rib and a steel scope mount rib(s) - not a combination rib.  I am interested in the Marvel combination rib, which seems to be the topic of this thread.  I expect some modification of the Marvel combination rib will be needed if fitted to any conversion other than a Marvel.  Knowing some basic information about the Marvel combination rib (like, how much it weights, it's length, and if it is made of steel) would be very useful in a decision to buy such a rib and adapt it for use on a conversion other than a Marvel.
If i remember correctly the one of the mounting holes are in different locations either 1 or both. Also may have to radius the corner of the barrel shroud for the face of the slide clearance.
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Post by willnewton on 12/23/2017, 7:20 am

Holes do not match from Marvel to the Nelson ribs. I have both.

 If you guys want more weight, don’t worry about the rib, add a bigger scope or switch to GSG metal mags or add a Novak rail to the dust cover.

Am I one of the few people that have been trying to make my conversion combo lighter?  I have an Aimpoint Micro, use Nelson plastic mags, took off my big wood ergo grip, and even switched to an aluminum mainspring housing.

My pistol is just a bit heavier than an standard irons 1911 now and is wonderful to hold and barely recoils at all.  I tried going heavier and it was a mistake.

Everyone thinks that heavier is better, but doesn't stop to think that just because it feels good to lift and take a few shots, it is not as enjoyable to lift a hundred times and that your hold is degrading as the match goes on if the gun is too heavy.

I got an Aimpoint 9000sc and sent it back.  It was just ridiculous on the .22 pistol.  Some folks just need to accept that they are not 20-something hard holding military shooters blasting ball ammo all day.  Just because it is right for them does not mean it is right for you.

This is a .22 pistol.   If it is jumping around when you are shooting, chances are good has nothing to do with the weight and everything to do with your soft, mushy grip.  If your grip is not strong enough contain .22 recoil, then your hold will continue to suffer if you try to solve the problem by dumping more weight on the end of your arm.

I have a beastly heavy Hammerli 215 with a large scope mount, and Matchdot ll.  It outweighs my next heaviest pistol by a half pound.  It is a joy to shoot in practice and carried me through many matches.  I love that pistol!

  But guess what?  The “light” Nelson combo has resulted in better groups and scores higher in matches.

I’m not saying one way is right and wrong, just sharing what is working for me and handing out some food for thought.
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Post by JKR on 12/23/2017, 9:37 am

I agree with willnewton about heavy guns for us old guys. My Nelson weighs 2 oz more than my KC Crawford wad gun. Both are scoped the same and both were weighed without the magazine. The 45 loaded would make up the 2 oz. 

I want to use my old marvel with iron sights for an EIC gun. I had their standard aluminum iron sight rib a while back and for me it was a little too light. Thats why I was looking for a heavy combo rib. I'll have one arriving soon. I'll post the weight comparisons when I get it on the gun.

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Post by jglenn21 on 12/23/2017, 9:46 am

I'm playing with a 6" trailside and it's Way too light as is.. even with the heavy front steel weight, too light.. the addition of a Aimpoint 9000Sc has resolved the issue...( thanks Jon) .. It's heavier than the MD II

Excellent dot too.

just playing around I have added 1oz. stick on wheel weights before to adjust the balance.  form them to your dust cover and they will last quit a while
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