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Post by Wobbley on 1/4/2018, 2:32 pm

It has been said that you should train sustained fire using turning targets. Here is a relatively inexpensive remote system that can be set up for Bullseye training.

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https://www.triumph-systems.com/products/pivotal-trainer
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Post by Bullseye_Stan on 1/9/2018, 6:09 am

This is probably not the 'way to do it', but when I first started shooting Bullseye (and that's what it was called) we shot 50' indoor on fixed targets.  A command to 'fire' was given after 'all ready on the firing line'.  For whatever reason, I still keep that in my head and mentally go through those commands ('ready on the right', etc) at that cadence before shooting.

I've shot both fixed and turning targets in the last six months and don't find there is much difference.  But, that may be due to my 'mental rehearsals' so the target turning occurs when expected.

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Post by BE Mike on 1/9/2018, 9:25 am

It might have some value in other disciplines, but I think that there are better options for training for sustained fire in "precision pistol".
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Post by jwax on 1/9/2018, 9:49 am

Outdoor Precision pistol is fired on turning targets. That's the rule.
Please clarify why this system would not qualify for being an Outdoor Precision pistol target.

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Post by Oleg G on 1/9/2018, 1:15 pm

I did a bit of research on this system earlier. From what I remember, the system does NOT have ready or configurable presets for 20 secs or 10 secs face time. It is limited to 1.5 secs, 3 secs and 5 secs  face time with RANDOM edge time intervals. So, the system's presets are well suited for defensive or action sports training but not for precision pistol shooting.
Having said this, the system does have a manual mode. So, conceivably, one could train with a buddy, taking turns shooting and operating the target.
With a $400 price tag, a better option seems to be the "Coach Dave's Turning Target" system for $579.

http://target-turn.com/main.sc

I have no affiliation with "Coach Dave" or Triumph, nor have I tried either system. My observations are based purely on on-line research.

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Post by Wobbley on 1/9/2018, 3:03 pm

I talked with the owner and he said to use manual mode. And that it will work for Bullseye Times. Just no presets. He’s working on getting a user programmable controller.
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Post by Oleg G on 1/9/2018, 3:05 pm

Right, so manual mode would require someone else pressing the button. Great, if you have someone to train with but very awkward, if not impossible to use by your lonesome. Or am I missing something?
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Post by Wobbley on 1/9/2018, 3:14 pm

It is a remote controller, you can have it in your hand and press the button.
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Post by jglenn21 on 1/9/2018, 3:38 pm

Always make your own.. Ed Hall has several styles for the DIY user. See his articles on starloaders.com
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Post by Chris Miceli on 1/9/2018, 3:57 pm

Just contacted them. Hopefully second quarter this year adjustable timer for bullseye
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Post by SmokinNJokin on 1/9/2018, 4:29 pm

Keep us posted, this system looks promising. Especially if they are willing to sell it without the supporting metal framework.

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Post by fc60 on 1/9/2018, 5:35 pm

Greetings,

Years ago, I purchased a Frank Thomas Turning Target system.

I used it for 3 second two shot drills.

I started shooting slow fire drills with the 3 second phase. I noticed that my groups began to shrink. As it forced me to get the shot off quickly or put the gun down.

Ten years ago I peaked, shooting 2605 and 2607 and I feel the improvement was due to conditioning the brain into getting a shot off quickly and accurately.

I have some 25 yard targets hanging on the shop wall. One is a 100x8 with my 625 revolver timed fire. Admittedly I did cheat a little, at the time I was using the Red Dot devices.

So, I hope the above fellow brings out the improved mechanism so the Precision Shooting Crowd can improve their scores.

Cheers,

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Post by JKR on 1/13/2018, 5:56 pm

I also have a Frank Thomas turner. Unfortunately it finally died on me and i couldn't find anyone to fix it. Old school technology I guess. I replaced it with one of Coach Daves. It's been a great training tool. I've had it for three years now. Money well spent!

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