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Post by john bickar on Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:44 pm

Those of you who know Bob Crow from northeastern Ohio, he is back in the bullet business again with a gentleman named Frank Gauder.

They have a new website at https://www.bobsbullets.net/.

Bob is a Distinguished Pistol Shot and a 2600 shooter, and previously owned Quality Cast. I have not shot any of the Bob's Bullets brand yet, but I shot many thousands of Quality Cast and they were good bullets. I've known Bob since before I was born and he is a stand-up guy.

Enjoy another economical option for cast bullets.
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Post by Multiracer on Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:26 pm

Bobs bullets are the bomb. Frank is OK too.
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Post by Mike38 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:10 pm

1000 count of .313 dia. 98gn DBWC for $50? Is that price correct? That is damn cheap. I need to place an order!
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Post by john bickar on Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:13 pm

Mike38 wrote:1000 count of .313 dia. 98gn DBWC for $50? Is that price correct? That is damn cheap. I need to place an order!

It better be correct or the webmaster is in a heap of trouble.
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Post by Wobbley on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:28 pm

john bickar wrote:I've known Bob since before I was born and he is a stand-up guy.
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That long, huh?

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Post by john bickar on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:53 pm

Wobbley wrote:
john bickar wrote:I've known Bob since before I was born and he is a stand-up guy.
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That long, huh?

He likes to tell the story of how I peed on him as an infant.

He probably deserved it Laughing
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Post by rreid on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:58 pm

I had heard good things Quality Cast bullets and bought some, but it must have been after Bob sold the company. They weren't that great.
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Post by john bickar on Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:27 pm

rreid wrote:I had heard good things Quality Cast bullets and bought some, but it must have been after Bob sold the company. They weren't that great.

I don't want to cast aspersions on anyone, nor on a product that I have not tried, but I also heard that there were quality control issues when Quality Cast changed hands. "Quality Cast" is no more, for what that's worth.

I shot many of the old QC bullets (into the 880s/2630s with iron sights with their 200s and 160s) and none of the second iteration, so I do not have first-hand knowledge of the latter.

I would recommend giving Bob's Bullets a chance. Again, I have not shot them yet, but I know Bob, I know his past work, and I know the price point, so it seems low-risk to me.
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Post by daflorc on Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:33 am

On the subject of bobs bullets - about how much powder would you have to load to get the 155 grain 45acp bullets to cycle in a wad gun with a matchdot II? I imagine a very fast powder, lest you fill the case to the brim and make a mess of your shell holder.

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Post by fgauder on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:56 pm

daflorc wrote:On the subject of bobs bullets - about how much powder would you have to load to get the 155 grain 45acp bullets to cycle in a wad gun with a matchdot II? I imagine a very fast powder, lest you fill the case to the brim and make a mess of your shell holder.

This is Frank Gauder of Bob's Bullets. I just joined the forum today and this is my 1st post. I'm still clueless about posting, hope I do this right.

I personally shoot our 45-160 SWC in a Colt Mark IV Series 70 with a slide mounted original Aimpoint 30 mm Comp scope. I'm sure it's heavier than a Matchdot II. When I first got the gun it had a 20 lb hammer spring and I think a 15 lb slide spring, and I had to use 4.5 grains of Bullseye to assure 100% good cycles. I've re-sprung the gun with an 18 lb hammer spring and a 9 lb slide spring and it cycles with 4.0 of Bullseye. I never tried any less, and I actually use 4.2, even at 50 yrds. I've only used Bullseye powder, so I can't give specifics about others. I know that several of our customers use 310 and a few use Clays.

These 45-160's have a shorter nose than a 185 or 200 SWC, but as much bearing surface. They also have a flat base which helps accuracy. They're made with spec alloy in new molds on a new casting machine and sized and lubed on a new lube-sizer. If they're no good, we can't make them any better.

John, thanks for your post and recommendation.

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Post by Chris Miceli on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:33 pm

fgauder wrote:
daflorc wrote:On the subject of bobs bullets - about how much powder would you have to load to get the 155 grain 45acp bullets to cycle in a wad gun with a matchdot II? I imagine a very fast powder, lest you fill the case to the brim and make a mess of your shell holder.

This is Frank Gauder of Bob's Bullets. I just joined the forum today and this is my 1st post. I'm still clueless about posting, hope I do this right.

I personally shoot our 45-160 SWC in a Colt Mark IV Series 70 with a slide mounted original Aimpoint 30 mm Comp scope. I'm sure it's heavier than a Matchdot II. When I first got the gun it had a 20 lb hammer spring and I think a 15 lb slide spring, and I had to use 4.5 grains of Bullseye to assure 100% good cycles. I've re-sprung the gun with an 18 lb hammer spring and a 9 lb slide spring and it cycles with 4.0 of Bullseye. I never tried any less, and I actually use 4.2, even at 50 yrds. I've only used Bullseye powder, so I can't give specifics about others. I know that several of our customers use 310 and a few use Clays.

These 45-160's have a shorter nose than a 185 or 200 SWC, but as much bearing surface. They also have a flat base which helps accuracy. They're made with spec alloy in new molds on a new casting machine and sized and lubed on a new lube-sizer. If they're no good, we can't make them any better.

John, thanks for your post and recommendation.
I’d love some 200lswc with a flatbase
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Post by Multiracer on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:55 pm

Chris Miceli wrote:
fgauder wrote:
daflorc wrote:On the subject of bobs bullets - about how much powder would you have to load to get the 155 grain 45acp bullets to cycle in a wad gun with a matchdot II? I imagine a very fast powder, lest you fill the case to the brim and make a mess of your shell holder.

This is Frank Gauder of Bob's Bullets. I just joined the forum today and this is my 1st post. I'm still clueless about posting, hope I do this right.

I personally shoot our 45-160 SWC in a Colt Mark IV Series 70 with a slide mounted original Aimpoint 30 mm Comp scope. I'm sure it's heavier than a Matchdot II. When I first got the gun it had a 20 lb hammer spring and I think a 15 lb slide spring, and I had to use 4.5 grains of Bullseye to assure 100% good cycles. I've re-sprung the gun with an 18 lb hammer spring and a 9 lb slide spring and it cycles with 4.0 of Bullseye. I never tried any less, and I actually use 4.2, even at 50 yrds. I've only used Bullseye powder, so I can't give specifics about others. I know that several of our customers use 310 and a few use Clays.

These 45-160's have a shorter nose than a 185 or 200 SWC, but as much bearing surface. They also have a flat base which helps accuracy. They're made with spec alloy in new molds on a new casting machine and sized and lubed on a new lube-sizer. If they're no good, we can't make them any better.

John, thanks for your post and recommendation.
I’d love some 200lswc with a flatbase


Step right up and place an order........... BTW, Hello Frank and welcome to the asylum.

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Post by daflorc on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:22 pm

fgauder wrote:
daflorc wrote:On the subject of bobs bullets - about how much powder would you have to load to get the 155 grain 45acp bullets to cycle in a wad gun with a matchdot II? I imagine a very fast powder, lest you fill the case to the brim and make a mess of your shell holder.

This is Frank Gauder of Bob's Bullets. I just joined the forum today and this is my 1st post. I'm still clueless about posting, hope I do this right.

I personally shoot our 45-160 SWC in a Colt Mark IV Series 70 with a slide mounted original Aimpoint 30 mm Comp scope. I'm sure it's heavier than a Matchdot II. When I first got the gun it had a 20 lb hammer spring and I think a 15 lb slide spring, and I had to use 4.5 grains of Bullseye to assure 100% good cycles. I've re-sprung the gun with an 18 lb hammer spring and a 9 lb slide spring and it cycles with 4.0 of Bullseye. I never tried any less, and I actually use 4.2, even at 50 yrds. I've only used Bullseye powder, so I can't give specifics about others. I know that several of our customers use 310 and a few use Clays.

These 45-160's have a shorter nose than a 185 or 200 SWC, but as much bearing surface. They also have a flat base which helps accuracy. They're made with spec alloy in new molds on a new casting machine and sized and lubed on a new lube-sizer. If they're no good, we can't make them any better.

John, thanks for your post and recommendation.
Thanks for the info!

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Post by jglenn21 on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:40 pm

not many flat base 200 gr H&G 68 bullets out there being commercially cast. Guess the reason is that Magma doesn't carry a flat based bullet mold normally.

GT bullets is one that does make them  but I have never used any
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Post by teg2658 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:15 am

I am helping a friend of mine who no longer can shoot sell out. I have 5 boxes of 1000 Quality Cast, Bob Crow/Dave Bowser 45-200 SWC which look to be H&G 68 BB bullets for $75 a thousand, I prefer to sell them local, 20 west of Rochester NY. Will ship on your dime. Also have Precision Delta  out of Ruleville MS 38 spec 148 HBWC for $82 a thousand, I have 4K here, there may be more. Send PM if interested.
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Post by boatbum101 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:29 pm

Dave Sayler introduced me to the 160's & uses them @ both long & short lines . At long line I'd stay with 4.5 BE or basically same charge what you'd load behind a 185 JHP . Short you can go with 4.2 or 4.3 BE . 200's long 4.2 BE , short you can go down to 3.5 BE . Personally I get better results long with the 200's & use the 160's @ the short line .

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Post by Colt711 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:30 pm

I just talked to Bob C on the phone. He has more equipment than when he ran Quality Cast and can deliver bullets.
I've shot many of his 160's and they were always very good bullets. I just shoot a few rnds a year now and they are .38. Bob has made them but I only shoot because I don't know any other tricks so can't comment on the long line, or machine rest.

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Post by john bickar on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:11 pm

Colt711 wrote:I just talked to Bob C on the phone. He has more equipment than when he ran Quality Cast and can deliver bullets.
I've shot many of his 160's and they were always very good bullets. I just shoot a few rnds a year now and they are .38. Bob has made them but I only shoot because I don't know any other tricks so can't comment on the long line, or machine rest.

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Good to hear from you, Ron; haven't seen you post in awhile.
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