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Post by mikemyers on 3/26/2018, 10:57 am

The Salyer wad gun I am now using was fitted with an extended guide rod at the request of the original buyer.  I've never taken a gun like this down for cleaning.  

Is the procedure to first use an Allen wrench to remove the guide rod extension, and then take the gun apart as with any normal 1911?  Anything else special I should know about ahead of time?

The gun has a Kart barrel and bushing; hopefully the bushing isn't as tight as what Les Baer does.


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Post by zanemoseley on 3/26/2018, 11:37 am

A tight barrel bushing is a good thing. Buy a gunsmith hammer with a nylon & brass pad to reassemble, during takedown use the barrel like a slide hammer to ease the bushing out. 

My RRA has a full length rod, before removing the slide I break the rod loose with an allen wrench, you can totally remove the front half of the rod or you can remove it after you have taken the slide off the frame. I'm not a huge fan of a FLGR but I suppose they work.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 3/26/2018, 12:23 pm

There is no reason for you to remove the barrel from the firearm or thI bushing
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Post by zanemoseley on 3/26/2018, 12:32 pm

I'm not sure how you adequately clean your barrel without removing it from the firearm, surely you don't do all your cleaning from the crown end. To each their own. I like clean firearms, some people are ok running them dirtier than I feel comfortable. You obviously shoot good scores so it must work.

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Post by Tim:H11 on 3/26/2018, 12:51 pm

On one side: Chris could clean from muzzle end with a guide/muzzle protector. No problem. And with the slide off the gun, and the barrel forward (completely out or of battery) you could clean the upper lug recesses I think. But you can’t however clean the upper lugs. Not my chosen method but to each their own.
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Post by mikemyers on 3/26/2018, 1:00 pm

Wow....    well, thanks!   To Zanemoseley, because of my problems with the Les Baer, I bought one of those custom aluminum bushing wrenches that are/were available.  It has a swinging plate which can push/pull on the bushing.  I agree, I would prefer to have a standard gun, no FLGR, but the previous owner wanted it so he could easily swap "upper" assemblies, I think to shoot .22.

To Chris, you're saying not to clean the slide parts like I'm used to doing?  Is there a reason for this?
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Post by zanemoseley on 3/26/2018, 1:36 pm

If you've got any precision rifle friends don't tell them you clean from the crown, you might get slapped. Heck most of those guy don't even use brushes, just solvent and patches. Makes for difficult removal of any lead buildup.

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Post by Chris Miceli on 3/26/2018, 2:50 pm

I can easily and completely clean my 1911 without removing the barrel or bushing. As yours is a kart bushing it’s not as tight to barrel as other guns out there. The cause by removing the bushing repeatedly as well as turning it trying to get it to line up exactly the same.
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Re: Disassembly of 1911 with extended guide rod

Post by SW-52 on 3/26/2018, 3:46 pm

watch this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2j2b21OGmU
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Re: Disassembly of 1911 with extended guide rod

Post by mikemyers on 3/26/2018, 5:06 pm

SW-52, thanks!!!!    That video answered questions I haven't even had a chance to ask yet.  

I need to find a way to download that video and save it on my computer and laptop.
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Post by Bullseye_Stan on 3/26/2018, 5:19 pm

FWIW, this is the video downloader I use: https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

I don't tend to upgrade it, but that hasn't hindered it's ability.  I don't trust YouTube to keep videos I find useful (or those that involve guns).

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Post by Amati on 3/26/2018, 6:42 pm

Thanks Christian, good video.

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Re: Disassembly of 1911 with extended guide rod

Post by mikemyers on 3/26/2018, 8:07 pm

Bullseye_Stan wrote:FWIW, this is the video downloader I use: https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

I don't tend to upgrade it, but that hasn't hindered it's ability.  I don't trust YouTube to keep videos I find useful (or those that involve guns).
Thanks!!!!    Downloaded the app to my iMac, installed it, and it worked....    Once I checked SMART MODE I figured out where the downloaded videos are being stored.
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