Identify this powder!

Ok, I know, don't go just by looks. It's a curiosity thing.
This powder is used in the Zero 185 jhp match loads.
it was 4.54 gr's

I'm thinking something from Alliant. Hodgdon Clays!

Its always fun to guess. Contact the company.  https://www.zerobullets.com/contact.htm

Powder photo link

Jim:

http://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sample_detail.php

john bickar wrote:Jim:

http://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sample_detail.php

Thanks John, I have that from another thread.
it's a curiosity thing. I really will/should just ask them.

Jim,

Commercially licensed ammunition loaders have powders available to them that are not available to the public.  It's best to contact Zero to be safe.

Mark

thanks Mark, I understand that.
But, generally, something close can usually be intuitively figured out.
it's clearly not Bullseye, a Winchester ball powder, IMR or VV...lol

for example,

from the Hodgdon website reloading app
Hodgdon
Clays
.451"
1.135"

4.5
855
14,500 CUP

bet it's pretty close to the 4.5 gr's and 824fps I chrono'd their loads at...

700X  ?
I see some light greenish gray flecks

expendable wrote:700X  ?
I see some light greenish gray flecks

possibly....


700x on the top
or was it the bottom???

Most likely 700X .I talked to Fred at Canp Perry a couple years ago and he was saying how much he likes 700X and accurate it is.

I, too, heard that Zero uses 700X in their .45 loads with the 185 grain JHP. Someone in the Zero shop on Commercial Row told me that when I told them how much I liked their ammo and asked which powder they used.

When I bought some 700X and tried to duplicate the Zero load, I discovered that it's a coarse, flaky powder that meters like cornflakes. I still like the Zero 185 gram JHP but I've moved on to other powders.

The only thing that stops me from saying it's IMR 700X is that it lacks the really bright-yellow "markers" found in 700X and 800X. Appears to have the same "ruffly" edges of 700X. I would say that it looks closer to what BE86 does (on the internet, anyway), except the charge weight is about 2.5-3 grains too light.

Unless those lighter flakes at 6 o'clock, 8:30, and 9:30 are lighter than they look.

It's not Clays--wrong color. Too light to be HP-38, not shiny enough to be Titegroup.

It kind of reminds me of American Select from Alliant.Maybe Clay Dot?-Mike

And, the winner is,
(Drumroll)
From ZERO

700X !!

According to an email I received from Zero in May of last year: "The 45 185 JHP ammo  is currently loaded with 4.3 grains of 700-X powder, with a velocity of around 800 fps."

The one I pulled yielded 4.54 grains of 700X.
I chrono'd it at 824 fps.